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Khabib Nurmagomedov is one of the greatest fighters of all time, who retired from the UFC undefeated with a perfect 29-0 record. We did this conversation entirely in Russian. It’s translated and dubbed into English. Both language audio tracks (and subtitles) are available on YouTube. Here, only the English audio is available. We worked hard to make it enjoyable to listen to, by carefully dubbing the translation using voice-cloning, as we’ve done for previous foreign-language podcasts.
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OUTLINE:
(00:00) – Introduction
(01:29) – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections
(08:24) – Why Dagestan produces so many great fighters
(18:31) – History of Dagestan warrior culture
(27:51) – Hard training in the mountains of Dagestan
(31:42) – The trap of fame, money, and power
(42:23) – The key to Khabib’s dominance
(53:36) – Discipline and hard work
(1:06:04) – Street fights in Dagestan
(1:19:45) – Khabib’s top pressure
(1:25:29) – Khabib vs Conor McGregor
(1:38:14) – Khabib’s toughest fight
(1:46:02) – Greatest MMA fighters of all time
(2:03:46) – Coaching
(2:09:19) – Daniel Cormier
(2:13:38) – Islam Makhachev
(2:23:35) – Dana White
(2:27:05) – Joe Rogan
(2:29:20) – Ali Abdelaziz
(2:31:57) – Football
(2:39:12) – Messi vs Ronaldo
(2:57:12) – Dubai
(3:01:03) – God
(3:08:46) – Advice for young people
Episode summary
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It’s a real honor, brother. We’re trying this in Russian, even if I sometimes feel the words more easily than I find them. I wanted to begin with that famous old gym in Makhachkala: almost nothing there, cold water, one shower, yet it produced an unbelievable number of champions. What was in that place, and in that Dagestani life, that made people so hard to break?
Before the new facility opened, it was basically a school hall: mats, one bag, a rope, that’s it. But the main thing was my father. Earlier, in our village, he had a gym inside our home, and my first memories are waking up to bodies hitting the mat, throws, and my father shouting instructions. For our sport, you don’t need luxury. You need a coach, tough partners, and a mat. Comfort can make a person soft; hunger makes him look for more.
So it isn’t just poverty or toughness by itself. Brazil has football because people love it and there’s a pathway for talented kids. Dagestan has that pathway for fighting: gym, regional level, Russian championships, then the world. Why do those rooms keep creating elite wrestlers and MMA fighters?
The competition is fierce. In one gym, every corner has ten strong guys, and Dagestan has many excellent coaches nobody outside knows. Wrestling grew here for generations, then coaches carried that knowledge into sambo and MMA. Fighting is part of our culture: parents want children strong enough to protect themselves and their family. History shaped this too. Mountains, invasions, separate peoples and languages—people had to endure. You don’t live that life and remain mentally weak.
The base in Sildi was my father’s dream. We built it slowly, even when money was tight; after he passed, I continued it on a larger scale. Fighters can now live and prepare there, high in the mountains, where a few weeks changes your conditioning. But it’s not about business. It gives local people work, gives athletes a place to grow, and keeps my father’s intention alive. Mountains are mountains. Your village gives you something deeper than profit.
Money and fame create another kind of test. A fighter reaches the summit, suddenly there are flights, contracts, attention, cameras—and training starts disappearing one session at a time. You’ve seen how much harder it is to remain champion than to become one. How did you keep that fire without starting to believe your own legend?
I never saw success as the biggest thing in life. We’re not kings; we can’t even control the most basic parts of being human. My goal was to show my father that his teachings worked through me. Outside the cage, you stay decent and humble. But against the man trying to stop your dream, you cannot be soft. I hated losing more than I loved winning. A hundred days before a fight, every trip, meeting, and workout was organized around preparation. I had to be ready.
To be among the best, you need to be a little crazy—in a good way. My father had us working at dawn, then again in the evening; sometimes I secretly added night sessions by the sea. But he also made me read, write, earn things, and learn geography country by country. He didn’t want only a fighter. He built habits, discipline, and a mind. For children, empty time can be dangerous. Give them useful work, a challenge, and a reason to earn the reward.
Street fighting taught me why mixed martial arts mattered, but my father always warned me not to use force outside sport. I watched my cousin choke out a much stronger wrestler during a rain-soaked conflict, and I understood: on the ground, wrestling may finish, but MMA is only starting. My father still made me compete everywhere—judo, sambo, grappling, wrestling—sometimes I lost, complained, and went again. Later I understood: each match makes your mind more relaxed when the real stage arrives.
Against Conor, I stayed controlled until the fight ended. Emotion makes you tired, careless, easy to bait. My father’s voice mattered more than millions of people supporting me. He told me pressure can crush you or make something valuable, depending on how you carry it. The fight with Gaethje was different: my father was gone, injuries kept coming, and I had already promised my mother it would be the last one. Inside, I knew I was saying goodbye to a feeling I could never recreate.
Fear is normal. You don’t pretend it isn’t there; you meet it, ask why it came, and go through it again and again. Competition is where you learn that. First you fight yourself, then the opponent. As a leader, I can’t coach Islam, Umar, or anyone with one template. Everybody has a different mind. Islam became great through gifts, sacrifice, and years staying in that uncomfortable room. One generation develops behind another; that chain is how a real team survives.
Faith keeps my life in order. Prayer comes first, and everything else gets placed around it. It helped me with victory, with my father’s death, with not becoming proud. The tongue reveals what fills the heart, so I try to give praise to Allah, not myself. My advice is simple: read, learn, search, don’t stand still. Think beyond these few decades we’re given. Keep money in your hands, not inside your heart. Wealth can serve people, but once it owns your heart, it becomes dangerous.
Brother, thank you. From Dagestan and your father’s lessons to championships, grief, faith, football, and the responsibility of leading others—you brought real warmth to this. I’m deeply grateful for your time, for training together, and for this conversation. And thank you, my friends, for listening.