About this episode
Welcome to The Game w/Alex Hormozi, hosted by entrepreneur, founder, investor, author, public speaker, and content creator Alex Hormozi. On this podcast, you’ll hear how to get more customers, make more profit per customer, how to keep them longer, and the many failures and lessons Alex has learned and will learn on his path from $100M to $1B in net worth. Wanna scale your business? Click here. Follow Alex Hormozi’s Socials: LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | Acquisition
Episode summary
Fourteen years in, I’m sharing the simple ratios I use to tell what’s a real problem versus a thing to monitor, and we kick off with how price and close rate move together.
If you’re closing around four out of five, you’re probably way too cheap, and under thirty usually means you have targeting or sales issues, not a pricing problem; in services the path is to raise price as you get better, while in software you balance growth rate and margin.
Most of these are relationships, not absolutes—think speed and quality, attraction and conversion and delivery.
Your LTV to CAC target depends on humans in the loop: fully automated can live near three to one, add a person and you want roughly six to one, two people needs nine to one, and people at every stage needs about twelve to one so you have cushion to hire and ramp.
When I crack a money model, the best runs are absurd—my first year at Gym Launch was approximately one hundred to one because we kept iterating until it popped.
Big winners either push CAC toward zero with brand or virality, or drive LTV sky high; know which game you’re playing across attract, convert, and deliver.
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The rule of one hundred is non negotiable early on: take one hundred meaningful actions daily for one hundred days on a single channel, then apply that discipline each time you add a channel; volume beats volatility, and diminishing returns are still returns.
Call every lead within sixty seconds, because delay multiplies CAC, drags close rates, and crushes gross margin.
Keep sales calendars around seventy percent utilized so prospects can book soon and reps have time to follow up; over eighty five kills show rates and pipeline work, under sixty tanks momentum, so hire ahead to keep the squeeze on.
I’ve never made less by adding reps, and slightly hungry teams work harder than fat and happy ones.
Target a thirty day payback period so you can grow on credit card float, and rework your money model to pull cash forward with setup fees, bundled durations, or upfront elements; investors love short payback, and bootstrappers need it.
Learn your gross margin, because net can never outrun it; for services I want at least eighty percent by decommoditizing and charging on value, and the jump from seventy to ninety percent gross more than doubles profit per customer.
Within the first month, collect enough to cover CAC plus cost of delivery so each new customer funds the next one.
Shift from selling to reselling by making the product and experience so good people stay; for B2B, aim to keep roughly eighty percent of customers year to year so LTV explodes and you can outspend rivals on acquisition.
Offer pay in full perks and a real discount because money today is worth more; expect about twenty percent to take light offers and up to forty percent with stronger bonuses or guarantees, and know that strong financing partners can lift sales materially but won’t rescue a bad product.
Sell durations, then ask for half now and half in thirty days or thirds aligned to when cash hits, and don’t feel obliged to match payment timing to delivery; layaway is underrated because the faster they pay, the faster they get service, collections are easier, anticipation helps, and you carry almost no risk.
Quick benchmarks: local in person leads convert near ten percent, cold webinar opt ins two to three percent or five when narrowly targeted, trained reps should close roughly one in three, and most pages convert one to two percent while trusted marketplaces trade margin for higher conversion.
Ignore industry averages and play to win; like that early Tiger Woods clip, aim for the jacket, not a pat on the head, because physics is the only real limit and some shops run seventy percent net by automating massive value.
These ratios are the lighthouses I use to steer, and I hope they guide you just as well.