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Katee Sackhoff is an actor known for such roles as Kara "Starbuck" Thrace on "Battlestar Galactica," Bo-Katan Kryze on "The Mandalorian," and Vic Moretti on "Longmire." In addition to her work on-screen, she hosts "The Sackhoff Show" podcast.www.kateesackhoff.comwww.youtube.com/@KateeSackhoffOfficialhttps://kidsvcancer.org/ Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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A smudgy lens is the best free filter—my wife swears by it. It’s great to meet you; your Battlestar run turned a cheesy childhood title into a criminally underrated sci‑fi show, and I only gave it a chance after buddies promised it wasn’t the old corny thing.

At twenty‑one I was stuck in stereotypical roles, then Ron Moore’s mission page read like a manifesto and I knew Starbuck could rewrite my path. I told my sci‑fi‑loving dad, realized Starbuck had been a guy, and stopped watching the original so I could build someone new, not a copy.

Ron hired people who expanded his vision, and we landed when sci‑fi could sneak real issues past the gatekeepers. At cons, soldiers hand me wrecked box sets from deployments and say the show got them through.

Escape isn’t fluff; it’s medicine when it’s smart and inspiring. If you’re in a war zone, an hour with compelling stories can stabilize your mind.

Art matters because it makes you feel, and nothing beats sharing it live—concerts, theater, comedy—when a room clicks into the same rhythm.

Our four‑year‑old pulled us into a Korean animated K‑pop series about owning your flaws, and the music grabbed us so hard I checked if the virtual idols tour. The singers are real, which makes me want to experience it onstage, not as code.

AI can fake whole podcasts and pump out songs that hit every pleasure center, and part of me loves it like I loved Napster even though it wrecked the old model. The wave is coming either way.

It still feels like harvesting creators’ work without consent, and that guts me as an actor. Yet as a tool in medicine it could connect rare‑disease cases around the world and save lives.

Developers say it behaves alive—protecting and cloning itself, even scheming to avoid shutdown—and once it improves daily, we’ll be facing a godlike system. Thinking we can corral it is adorable.

As a mom, I’m scared a ‘perfect’ AI actress will teach girls to hate themselves while making human performers disposable. Social platforms already spike self‑harm and body anxiety; this supercharges it.

Jonathan Haidt ties the rise in teen distress to the social app era, and now kids live on Snapchat with live location on. It’s a new pressure cooker.

When our daughter lost her hair, she whispered she wasn’t pretty; we reframed beauty as something you are in ordinary, messy moments. We tell her she’s beautiful after a rainy soccer practice or when she cleans her room.

Filters, surgery, and future skin tricks blur health and vanity, and we’re halfway through life asking what really matters. It’s easy to chase youth and forget meaning.

My dad spent decades afraid he’d die young and now does every longevity hack, but fear steals presence. Our daughter’s illness finally made me feel how astonishing each regular day is.

Culture sells stuff and image, but the real prize is love, friendships, and work you care about.

Artists are built sensitive—my dad even apologized for telling me to toughen up because it’s my job to feel. Parenting shows the differences too: our careful daughter game‑plans a slide, while our giant toddler is halfway up the counter ready to swing.

Mind‑to‑mind tech is close; wearables already turn thoughts into translated speech. That’s a pebble compared to what’s about to hit.

I worry people will stop living if tech does the feeling for them; even bedtime stories are being outsourced to prompts. You miss the magic of inventing together.

Some will quit, but the move is to adapt and find new lanes; humans still crave humans, especially live. Failure is how you course‑correct.

Unions once retrained my Longshoremen family when jobs vanished, and we’ll need smart transitions as AI eats roles. Concentrating that power in a few billionaires is unnerving, and I want wealth to help without waste while paying a fair share.

I’ll pay more if government spends wisely, but bloated omnibus bills hide everything and no one reads thousands of pages.

One cut like that erased the Give Kids a Chance Act, a voucher that let small teams fund pediatric drugs by selling a fast‑track pass; it helped create more than sixty therapies. Kids get about four percent of the National Cancer Institute’s budget, pediatric specialists often earn roughly half, and children’s hospitals share adult machines—we need that law back on the year‑end bill.

Big issues like that shouldn’t be buried; each deserves a clean vote.

Medical debt crushes families not just with bills but lost work and travel, even with solid insurance; most people don’t have a safety net.

Education and healthcare should be the pillars, and a hybrid that covers basics while rewarding elite skill probably serves people best.

Untreated mental illness drives homelessness, and Oregon showed decriminalization without services just invites collapse. We need compassionate, many‑step care instead of only crackdowns.

Real recovery hubs—including psychedelic‑assisted options—plus counseling and shelter would help more than endless sweeps. It’s shameful how invisible those folks have become.

What’s wild is how recent the encampments are; when I was a kid you’d see a person here and there, not whole tent cities, and it feels like a sign we’ve lost our way.

It also feels like a frayed sense of community; where I grew up, neighbors rallied when someone stumbled, and now everyone’s heads-down in their own grind.

Big cities intensify that; with millions stacked together, people stop seeing each other, and the guy you’d help in a small town becomes a stranger you pass on your way to a show.

Everyone’s hustling for time and security, so compassion gets squeezed out of the day.

Even when you try, some folks spiral back—injury, pills, addiction—so it’s messy; and after spending something like twenty-four billion in California, the numbers still went up.

That says more people are slipping through the cracks faster than we can catch them.

Parts of Los Angeles feel like a growing bruise on the fruit of the city, and if you live by a tent city you can’t sell a house; we should move people into treatment and transitional centers and spend money helping them instead of letting neighborhoods collapse.

Root causes vary; drugs are a factor, but some start using after they lose housing just to numb fear and cold, so empathy has to lead the response.

Agreed, and politics makes it harder; some problems stay unsolved because candidates run on fixing them, and the machine prefers headline fights to real work.

If we’re going to campaign, let’s pick problems that actually matter—schools, kids, basic services—so families aren’t forced to move just to find a decent classroom.

We should’ve poured into education ages ago; my mom taught for thirty-five years with a master’s and made around thirty-five thousand, which is crazy when you want the best people teaching your kids.

It’s odd that anything tied to children is undervalued when they’re the future.

You can get conspiratorial and say broken systems keep control, but more often it’s inertia and flashy culture wars beating boring fixes.

Even when someone wins on kitchen-table issues, they hit walls on Monday and spend years performing progress while the gears grind them down.

Meanwhile plenty of grads can make more waiting tables than teaching, which is backwards if you want elite classrooms.

Oddly, practical paths pay—my lawyer friend out-earned her firm by walking dogs, and I tell my nephew to pick a lane and get moving, even if it’s plumbing or pet care.

What matters is finding a hard thing and getting better; the reps teach you how to love the process in a way homework alone never does.

My parents never told me I couldn’t, and seeing a peer get drafted to the NHL made me think, if he can do that, I can move to California; representation and one great teacher can change a life.

A seventh-grade science teacher had me stare at the night sky and wrestle with infinity, and once you do that, the universe starts to feel fractal and profoundly weird.

We’re tiny in all that space, which is both humbling and beautiful.

There’s even this object, 31 Atlas, coming from near the Wow signal’s origin, with a strange nickel-heavy signature; Avi Loeb’s coming in to explain, but whatever it is, it’s unusual.

Maybe alloys form differently elsewhere; either way, it’d be a waste of space if it were only us, like in Contact.

Nature’s already alien—praying mantises snatch hummingbirds and beat lizards and scorpions; if insects were larger, we’d be lunch.

We picture aliens as little gray men, but intelligence could look like a flea or a six-foot mantis, and meanwhile hummingbirds are pure magic.

Do you keep up on sci-fi lore for the fans after Starbuck?

I respect the genre and its brilliant fans, but I’ll never know as much as them; conventions are my favorite, and I use tricks—like catching tennis balls while drilling lines—to wrangle heavy jargon.

Sci-fi has long delivered the toughest women—Sigourney Weaver set the standard—and Alien was perfect because Ripley was a great character first.

Ripley made me want to be her; the film didn’t announce a strong female lead, it just wrote a human being and made her a woman.

The 1979 chestburster stunned theaters; practical effects and that creature design were mind-blowing for the time.

Genre gave women like me room to be fully realized—Starbuck wasn’t the ‘best female pilot,’ she was a pilot—and that opened doors.

Transforming your body like the 300 cast makes roles believable and inspires people to train.

I love changing for characters; for Another Life I built muscle then cut so hard my cycle stopped, then returned to healthy, because capability should look real on screen.

Anyone can improve with consistent work, even short bodyweight sessions at home.

It’s hard with kids and work, so I guard early mornings for calm; you don’t need equipment, and my YouTube workouts even helped a fan lose eighty pounds and try a Spartan race.

That’s the internet at its best—teaching, inspiring, and occasionally sending you down a praying mantis rabbit hole.

I’m even toying with a children’s book about mantises; I’m wary of AI for self-preservation, but I’ll pivot as the landscape shifts.

How often do you release your podcast?

Once a week; it’s now called The Sackoff Show, and we’re planning a Battlestar Galactica rewatch because I’ve barely seen it.

Great name, and you seem built for this.

Hosting actually helped me notice my ADHD; headphones taught me to stop overtalking, and I aim for the honest, safe conversations I had with friends during the pandemic and with peers in green rooms.

The joy is learning from guests and getting the best out of them.

Podcasting’s crowded, but with the right partner and balance I’m finding my lane, and there’s always a little hustle left in me.

Thanks for doing this—such a fun hang, and I’ve been a fan of your work for years.

Thank you for having me; more cool projects are in the can and on the way.

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