About this episode
Former NFL scout John Middlekauff reacts to a wild black Monday in the NFL that saw Pete Carroll, Jonathan Gannon, and Kevin Stefanski and Raheem Morris all get fired. John dives into what's next for these teams and if any of them made the wrong decision. Later, John talks about Matt Ryan likely headed towards taking a job with the Falcons organization and how that could impact his job at CBS. Finally, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment. 03:37 - Black Monday in the NFL 21:49 - Matt Ryan and the Falcons 28:56 - Zoned In 35:48 - Mailbag Follow John on Twitter , Instagram and YouTube for the latest. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Use promo code “3ANDOUT20” on https://nicokick.com/zone for 20% off at checkout! Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow - for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Episode summary
What’s up, everybody—Three and Out rolling; Black Monday cracked Stefanski, Carroll, and Gannon, we’ll hit selective accountability, the Matt Ryan executive twist, and then a fast mailbag; strap in, we’re reacting to the college slate and that Bears–Packers Saturday nighter, too.
Head coaching survival is mostly the quarterback you tie yourself to—pick right and you win, pick wrong and it drains you like a bad business partnership.
Carroll bet on Geno and got turnover-laced football, Gannon walked into a Kyler situation that has buried multiple regimes, and Cleveland’s mess with Deshaun plus a miss at the position sunk Stefanski once his own guy looked unplayable.
Ambition and money push coordinators to take shots, but the quarterback you choose will decide your career arc more than any scheme or late nights at the office.
Selective accountability kicks in when you lose—GMs sit with owners speaking contracts and drafts while coaches speak ball on an island, so when the arrows start flying, front offices survive by cozying up upstairs.
You see it when coaches get axed and GMs stay, even after shaky high picks—like passing elite line talent for a wideout while your line stinks—then selling it back to ownership as someone else’s fault.
On Matt Ryan: love the idea of him as a top-level exec, but you can’t do that and TV unless you bought a stake in the team; this league is too cutthroat to beat Howie, Schneider, and the killers who live it year-round with a part-time plan.
Playoffs are where coaches build real equity; one or two wins can buy years, road wins become legend, and the spreads this week are tight, so expect coin-flip finishes.
Mailbag: that Baltimore miss—I thought it was over after the big throw-and-catch; you could feel the miss off the foot.
NFC path: Seattle’s defense and two home games make them the team to beat, then Philly and the Rams; Chicago’s defense is too leaky, and the banged-up Niners are running out of bodies.
On Baalke and the Jags: a GM is only as good as his coach—hire stars, pay coordinators, and your roster looks faster and tougher overnight.
Division winners under five hundred shouldn’t host; divisions matter, but if you limp in eight and nine, you should travel.
Denver skepticism is mostly about the quarterback variance and a defense that wobbled late; when they’re right, they’re scary, but people don’t trust it week to week.
If you’re the Raiders taking a quarterback at the top, hire an offensive head coach and build competence around him; waiting on a mystery firing is a bad plan.
Caleb’s got a huge arm and explosive short-area juice; the only knocks are height and touch, and touch can be coached if he works it all offseason.
Scheduling flex: networks pay for those marquee windows, which limits late-season shuffling; make Sunday night more flexible after October and you’d improve it without nuking TV partners.
Coach of the Year feels like Ben Johnson or Liam Cohen, with Mike Macdonald in it; Vrabel’s a stud, but strength of schedule and what you inherited matters.
Ravens let it get conservative late, kicked a tough ball into the wind with a rookie, and paid for it—you blew that chance.
Ownership matters because great orgs empower football people to decide and get out of the way; meddling or hiring the wrong coach kills you, no matter how hands-off you claim to be.
Live postgame plans are fluid with the new deal, but the audio cadence stays; also, baby watch is on, so appreciate the patience.
Josh Allen absolutely has pressure—beat a good Jags team and you change the narrative; if he plays lights-out in a loss, context will matter, but the ledger starts this week.
Tomlin-for-McDaniel make-believe swap makes no sense; McDaniel’s not a Steelers fit, though Tomlin would thrive in Miami.
Tackling looks worse because you barely practice it now; coaches are paid to teach it, but game-speed reps are scarce.
Fernando Mendoza comp: think Burrow vibes—accurate, mobile enough, steady under fire, not a pure runner but comfortable on the move.
The Niners’ defense is gutted, so I’d load the box and bring heat, dare Jalen to beat tight windows outside, and expect Philly to pound the rock; San Francisco must score into the high twenties to even have a shot.
That’s the show—big week ahead, results over process, and we’ll be back on the other side; adios.