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Hoops Tonight - THUNDER-SPURS REACTION: Shai & Chet win TENSE Game 5 vs. Victor Wembanyama & Stephon Castle

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PodcastThe Herd with Colin Cowherd
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Jason reacts to Game 5 of the NBA playoff series between the OKC Thunder and San Antonio Spurs. He breaks down how Victor Wembanyama and Stephon Castle battle Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Chet Holmgren in a crucial Game 5 with the series tied 2-2. All lines presented by Hard Rock Bet . #Volume  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Happy Heavy Tuesday. We’ve got a packed show, breaking down a flat Game Five that turned into a whistle fest and a double‑digit home win, then Jackson joins for the mailbag, so make sure you’re subscribed.

Quick word on officiating: it swings game to game and usually favors the team that plays with more force, so I’m not pinning this on the refs even if the flopping is hard to watch.

The real story was force. OKC brought more of it—boxing out, screening, fighting through contact—and that energy makes any scheme work better than tweaks on a whiteboard.

Shai piled up free throws but didn’t have a clean floor game; the difference was role players stacking drives and Chet finally asserting himself, while OKC’s defense shoved Wemby off his spots and sped up shooters.

For San Antonio, Wemby needs deeper catches and easier looks. That means guards slowing down, hitting him on seals off cross‑screens and ball‑screen rolls, and cutting the quick jacks that skip your best option at the rim.

Big picture, the young Spurs are mistake‑heavy and now need three of four with two in OKC, while the Thunder have depth and polish even without AJ Mitchell and J‑Dub; I still lean OKC to take the series and feel Shai’s due for a real heater.

Chat’s heated about the whistle; one Super Chat says Wemby was passive and refused to battle for paint position—your take?

I don’t buy the three‑bad‑games claim. He’s got a high center of gravity, so bullying bigs isn’t the path; get him deep via cross‑screens and timely post seals, and the guards need to let those actions breathe and feed him.

OKC’s great at multi‑switching and switching back, so San Antonio has to force the switch to stick and deliver the pass before the peel‑out comes.

This is where young guards must see the bigger goal—establish the eight‑footer near the cup even if it means passing up shots they like; the Spurs are ahead of schedule, but OKC punishes those impatience mistakes.

SGA’s been uneven and the game swung on Caruso turning flamethrower, plus big nights from Hartenstein and McCain.

So far I’d give a slight edge to Wemby over Shai in the series, but that can flip fast; and for Thunder fans, this is the year to get San Antonio because their core is rising.

He’s in year three and already carrying this load—expectations get wild when someone’s that far ahead.

Totally—San Antonio’s miles ahead of preseason projections, OKC’s supporting cast is stronger, and Wemby has still put real fear into a juggernaut.

Caruso’s postseason jump is insane—timely threes, even some iso buckets.

He’s taking tougher looks, handling more, dropped six dimes, and looks like a top‑tier playoff role weapon.

League‑wide, stars are facing loaded coverages, scoring volume and efficiency are down, and everything hinges on playing off the first advantage cleanly.

Is Wemby gassed?

No—OKC’s defensive punch pushed him out and he cooled from deep, but it wasn’t a fatigue thing.

Can we give Chet his flowers tonight?

Absolutely—decisive post work created the first crack in the shell, and he won force battles on the glass and through contact.

He’s clearly better when he’s quick and decisive; could use more pace across his game.

Agree—being methodical with that build is tough; quicker reads and a faster release are the next leap.

Who besides Wemby is best positioned to step up in Game Six?

De’Aaron Fox has to be the adult, steer the two‑man game, and make sure Wemby eats; I expect a fired‑up Spurs Game Six and OKC’s best defensive shot in Game Seven, with whistles likely tilting to the home floors.

Loved Wemby’s timeout huddle pleading for more force and the instant response, and on the flip side the flopping is just ugly, even if it didn’t decide the game.

I’m with you—there’s loud chatter and also real flopping across several Thunder guys and occasionally the Spurs; it doesn’t decide outcomes, but it looks goofy and will stick to the legacy unless it stops.

Programming note: I dropped a Star Wars chat with Luke on the feed, and we’ll be live after Game Six on Thursday night—see you then, cousin.

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