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#1060 - Rick Glassman - The Case Against Condoms & Fake Friendship

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PodcastModern Wisdom
Publisher/creatorChris Williamson
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Rick Glassman is a comedian, actor, and podcaster. Why do humans act so complicated? We’re simple creatures — farts are funny, everyone does awkward stuff, yet we all pretend we don’t. Maybe life gets better when you lean into the weird instead of hiding it. So how do you embrace being different and find the fun instead of stressing about it Expect to learn how Rick’s brain works, what his favourite show and jokes are and how they shaped him, the top things that are difficult to look cool while doing, why using "condoms" with friends are useless, how to handle our people pleasing tendencies for good, why humans are so hard to interact with at times, the awkward feelings of becoming intimate with someone, the biggest message Rick Glassman wants to give out in the world and much more… Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: ⁠https://chriswillx.com/deals⁠ Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: ⁠https://chriswillx.com/books⁠ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: ⁠https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom⁠ Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: ⁠https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59⁠ #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: ⁠https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf⁠ #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: ⁠https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp⁠ - Get In Touch: Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx⁠ YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast⁠ Email: ⁠https://chriswillx.com/contact⁠ - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We open swapping cozy-fit banter: I call you a warm, romcom-sweater guy while I admit I drift sportier and sometimes overdressed-down for dinner.

Comfort’s my North Star, but I like outfits that pass for dressy and still feel like pajamas; in a romcom, that look gets two hands on cocoa and a laugh about, well, arousal.

I bring up your bit about random erectile misfires and how open you were about it, even in a hip-hop cipher, which surprised me in a good way.

I’m hyper‑sensitive to textures, smells, and sounds; sex with a condom feels like wearing contacts—I can’t forget it’s there—so I only want intimacy where we can say, I’m not fully present right now.

Same with friends: when I’m high I go into bits, so I ask, are we doing bits, or I’ll bounce; I want friendships where we don’t need ‘social condoms’ to be ourselves.

Given your sensitivity, I expected codependency—over‑monitoring others and killing the bit to keep peace—but you don’t default there.

My sensitivity is mostly about my own comfort; I used to think I knew what others felt, learned I don’t, and now I want people to set boundaries and interrupt me if needed.

How are you with your own boundaries? You even questioned moving your keys and hat—was that for you or me?

I’m clear on mine; as a kid I’d ask friends for their toys and they’d always say yes, but I later learned they hated it, which taught me how often people won’t say no.

I like calling out the game we’re playing mid‑rally—why are we doing this, what’s the point—though it can feel off‑key in the moment.

To me, clarifying the game is still the game; if that’s uncomfortable, we can switch games.

How are you feeling is a great question; you up it by sharing your own state first.

I fear the first kiss because people sometimes comply to avoid friction; that skepticism makes me ask blunt questions and name what I feel so consent is real, not guessed.

Once a partner accidentally spoiled a show, I reacted playfully, sensed a vibe shift, and only knew I’d hurt her feelings because I asked; I cried from realizing how unaware I’d been.

It sounds like you’re mapping boundaries so you don’t bulldoze through a room on your own wavelength.

Eight years ago I woke up to how much I miss; I over‑apologized for a while, but landed on caring about others without abandoning my judgment, and surrounding myself with friends who say, you’re being loud.

Tell me I have a booger and I’ll love you for it; I want people who’ll offer helpful truth, even if it stings.

I’m fascinated by self‑deception and love the breakup debrief, but I get that people often can’t name their why until it’s too late.

Give me a long ‘about me’ one‑pager for relationships and work—quirks, triggers, and how to check me—so we build a shorthand before we hit friction.

I’d list mine, like taking criticism too personally or going quiet in conflict; labeling that stuff speeds trust.

We fall for people’s edges, not their averages; think of the friend’s mum who stopped traffic to break up a street fight—that’s the kind of one‑off move you remember.

Love who you are and still shave the rough spots; my OCD rule is indoor vs. outdoor clothes, so I throw blankets on seats for guests—my ‘house protection’—and explain it in advance so it lands softer.

Self‑love can’t replace growth; I come from insecure‑overachiever land and once lived with a ‘productivity debt’ mindset, so I now try to balance the inner tyrant with gentler acceptance.

Before shows I aim for presence, not promising funny; presence is upstream of results, so if I miss, I still did the one thing in my control.

Accept today’s best, improve tomorrow; if I hated how under‑prepped felt at an audition, I prepare better next time and quit dragging shame into the moment.

I adore myself and think I’m hilarious, but hold that lightly; it’s all frequency‑matching, and with small talk I learned the call‑and‑response—sometimes ‘good, thanks’ honors the ritual without lying.

You’re the reverse of most self‑work—you’re learning small talk rather than unlearning it.

Kids blurt truth; I try to pair truth with tact and see people‑pleasing as often self‑protective, so I deliver useful info the way I’d want to hear it, with a quick disclaimer when needed.

In New York dog parks you’ve got ninety seconds of sidewalk bandwidth; the hello‑and‑move‑on script is like flashing headlights at a junction.

I’ll say hi back or offer a light ‘I’m in a mood but okay’ to keep it honest without opening a rabbit hole; first‑kisses feel similar—always a tiny leap of faith.

A best friend lets you speak with almost no filter and also sit in easy silence—that’s deep safety.

My goofy litmus: liking The Simpsons and laughing at farts; if you think farting is gross, we’re probably mismatched, though clothes are basically filters and I’ll ask you to close the toilet lid when you flush.

Getting a dog eased my OCD and got me outside; and yes, body humor often lands because the timing’s absurdly perfect.

Media storms don’t rattle me much; after a packed recording day, I loved Jon Bellion’s story of his kid saying he just kept singing—kids cut straight through.

I met Huberman at the airport while he petted my dog and chose not to pitch; producer‑me can ask later, comedian‑me respects timing and data before the ‘first kiss’ ask.

There’s reverence in pacing—rushing intimacy, like sex on date one, often signals low investment; waiting can show you’re here for more than the quick win.

My last few started fast but came after months of FaceTime, so the first meet wasn’t really first; that pre‑data matters.

FaceTime is a safer on‑ramp anyway; many women loop friends for location check‑ins before dates, which says a lot about the background load they carry.

When I feel bored now, I treat it as a connection problem, not a judgment about the other person. I’ll ask for clarity, admit I missed something, or try to re-engage—because if there’s no spark or learning, I don’t force it, and I won’t waste three more dates to find out.

There’s a difference between being interesting and making others feel interesting. I call that reverse charisma, and it starts with simple, sincere questions like why, what did you mean, or how did that feel.

Naming your own awkwardness can be a superpower. If I say, I feel out of my depth here, people lean in, and we find a new game we can play together.

You like to call out the game; I usually play within it. Think Flatland: you’ll step into another dimension and change the rules, while I try to nudge the energy inside the current frame so the shy person opens up and the loud one calms down.

To me, setting the rules out loud isn’t leaving the game; it’s getting on the same page. I’ve even thought about writing Unwritten Rules Written, so people know the hidden expectations they’re tripping over.

Calling out the rules can break momentum, and conversation sits closer to our identity than say pickleball. Improve your speech and people worry about authenticity, but no one flinches if you hire a piano teacher; it’s strange what we treat as sacred.

I think phrasing is your accent in both music and speaking. You can hit the notes and marks, but your timing and feel are the signature that can’t be copied, even if someone knows every word of a joke.

So maybe black-belt social skill is what you do: name the meta and change the channel in real time. It just asks more bravery than most people can muster on the spot.

For me, the hard thing is pretending nothing’s off. Quick story: a woman I’d been excited to meet kept pushing our meetup from five to seven to eight-thirty to ten, after no-showing two tickets I saved for her; I wrote a clear, kind text about feeling overlooked, didn’t send it, then told her in person within five minutes when she arrived late and drunk.

I’d have bailed by the time alcohol entered the chat, but your unsent message was fair and balanced. Credit for holding your line without turning it into a fight.

I stayed mostly because I’d built up meeting her and she was stunning, but I was also relieved I wasn’t actually attracted to how the night unfolded. Naming the tension let us salvage a civil ninety minutes.

On value and motives, the shallow version is angling for access; the honest version is saying what you want and why it’s good for both of us. The problem is when attention gets coerced.

In sales I learned to solve the other person’s obstacle, not push a product. Same in conversation: if a star walks in, I’ll name it and include you—come with me or I’ll come back—because hiding my attention shatters the bond faster than honesty.

Delivery matters. Invite people into your thought, don’t abandon them for it. Inclusion is the difference between clumsy and classy.

Bringing it home: this felt surprisingly cozy and intimate, and I didn’t expect our worlds to overlap so well. I’ve had a blast.

I watch your show because I believe you, and I can feel the growth you’re documenting. You host with curiosity, you challenge when needed, and you don’t peddle vague self-help—you notice real things and dig in.

What I love about yours is the Sunday-afternoon vibe. The art, the tone, the warmth—it lets me drop my shoulders and just be.

That’s by design: it’s in my living room, no publicists, shoes off, and we get comfortable first. I can be silly or serious, but the baseline is we’re safe here.

Pre-show, keep the foreplay short so the best stories don’t spill off-camera. Open with an easy, human question, then get out of the guest’s way and give them rope to shine or test their ideas without sandbagging them.

One more tool: vagal authority. One nervous system usually sets the tone; you can co-regulate by slowing down, honoring a question with a real pause, and letting the room settle instead of racing their anxiety.

Tour-wise I’ve got Vegas, Cleveland, and Phoenix left, with new dates coming at liveric-glassman; join the email list and I’ll only ping you if I’m within fifty miles. My podcast is Take Your Shoes Off—start with David Corner sweat or Paul Rod 1.0 and 2.0 if you want weird, connected, and playful.

People take their shoes off, I share my OCD up front, and that vulnerability makes guests feel safe to show theirs. Cozy on purpose—that’s the whole point.

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