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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Colin Cowherd Podcast - Kevin Durant’s Future? Will Wemby Be Face Of The NBA? NFL Win Totals

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Colin Cowherd and 'First Things First' Co-Host Danny Parkins react to the latest in the NBA. They start with Kevin Durant and how his exits from teams are terrible and how that will impact his legacy. What is the future for KD? Draymond Green & Austin Rivers are in a feud but whose side are Colin & Danny on? Will Wemby be the face of the league and who will win Spurs-Timberwolves? Are the Knicks good or just good because they are in the East? They also give some of their favorite over unders in the NFL. TIMELINE 00:00 Kevin Durant 10:23 Draymond Green & Austin Rivers 15:11 Victor Wembanyama, Spurs, Timberwolves 24:57 Knicks 30:22 NFL Over/Unders 44:09 DTF ST LOUIS  (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We open with a turbo‑charged fight‑night read, trade a little who’s‑on‑the‑show banter, and then I tee up today’s theme: how endings reveal stars, and why Kevin Durant’s messy exits and leadership gaps ding how I see his legacy.

KD’s frustration with rings culture makes sense, but those Golden State titles don’t carry the same weight for me, and while he’s still a top‑tier scorer, Houston’s chemistry issues make him look more like a roaming specialist who fits best beside a clear alpha like Brunson, Ant, or Cade.

I cut hoop artists some slack the way we do rock stars; I loved guys like World B. Free, and with KD I separate the brilliant craft from the chaotic exits.

He’s sharp and invests well, but the Rodgers comp lands because the online back‑and‑forth and burner mess feel very millennial and way beneath someone of his stature.

Boomers had their vices and luck; different eras, different hangups.

We grew up scrolling while housing rocketed out of reach, so forgive me if I needle the generation that bought for pennies and sold for millions.

On Draymond and Austin Rivers: I love Dray’s game, but you can’t gripe about Steve Kerr when your whole career’s been Hall‑of‑Fame coaches and perfect context.

Draymond is a brilliant winner, but on a random roster he’s not a headliner; the dynasty runs through Steph, and elite role mastery plus winning is what vaulted Dray into the all‑time convo.

Think Rodman—when the Pops and Phils of the world vouch for you, there’s real value, and Kerr always kept Dray as a foundational piece.

Totally, but even with that, he’s a force because of the stars beside him, and his confidence tracks when Steph and LeBron constantly validate him.

Wembanyama’s a defensive alien and an offensive finisher, not a creator like Steph or Jokic, so I’m not sure he becomes the face of the league, and his style isn’t yet must‑watch for me.

He’s thoughtful, already near the top in jersey sales, and might be the outlier big who breaks that rule if the winning comes.

Minnesota’s a nightmare late in games, and while Wemby’s defense captivates, you can bump him off spots on offense, which dulls the show for now.

He’s already the best defender alive on a per‑minute basis and can grow on offense, but right now I’m awed by the Wolves’ grit—Finch’s group is fearless, physical, and keeps overdelivering.

I can’t read the East, so are the Knicks actually good or just hot in a weird conference?

It’s messy, but if they’re the least flawed group and Brunson is rolling, they can steal the East and then anything’s live in June.

Some guys slipped and the bench isn’t deep, which makes the profile odd.

DiVincenzo is thriving, Hart’s everywhere, their blowout streak is absurd and probably unsustainable, and the other East teams all have trust issues of their own.

The West keeps pounding the East in cross‑conference play, which says plenty.

With league‑wide depth and three‑point variance, upsets won’t stun me—lower seeds like Minnesota or a loaded Philly can be legit threats.

Let’s hit NFL over/unders and why schedule order matters, from weather and altitude to byes and cold road games.

The sequencing is real football value and real fan fun, from planning trips to catching your team in Vegas or Lambeau at the right time.

You don’t want Miami early heat or Foxborough in December, and Andy Reid in September is a headache.

International timing and bye placement swing outcomes too, so yes, it absolutely matters.

Dallas under eight and a half is my favorite fade; their slate flips from cushy to brutal while the division got better.

I lean under, since the road draws are nasty, and while the defense should bounce with resources poured in, that’s a lot of ifs.

I like Detroit over ten and a half with the softest path, a real OC upgrade, and the tackle solved.

The road trips are friendly and they have an extra home date, and I’ll add Bears over nine and a half with a Year Two leap for Caleb in Ben Johnson’s system and weapons everywhere.

Bears at nine and a half—plant your flag.

I’m over on Chicago and tilt under on Packers and Lions at ten and a half because the North feels like three teams stacked around nine or ten wins.

I still question Green Bay’s run defense and coordinator churn.

Their road slate is workable, but I see all three bunched together with a high floor and a couple of glaring holes each.

In the West, I’d shade Kansas City under ten and a half with the division rising and the Chiefs leaning on rookies while counting on aging stars and uncertain receivers.

I hate fading Reid with a healthy Mahomes, and if the new back pops and Rice stays on track, they can still hum even with brutal trips to L.A. and Seattle.

Quick TV pivot: DTF St. Louis floored me—electric acting, suburbia as a character, and the kind of weird you can’t turn off, like Ozark with a kinkier pulse.

I’m in after the playoffs, because these late tips are wrecking my sleep and I’m dragging through midtown every morning.

I’ve lived those Heat‑era nights on fumes, so thanks for hanging—good stuff today and we’ll do it again soon.

Always a blast; see you next time.

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