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The Ultimate Guide to Women’s Sexual Health, Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) & Menopause

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This episode is a MUST listen. Mel calls it one of the most important conversations she has ever had on The Mel Robbins Podcast. Most women don’t know this, and this information could save the life of a woman you love. If you are thinking you’re “fine,” while quietly suffering through symptoms that are treatable, you probably don’t know this life-saving medical fact either. Today, Mel is joined by Dr. Rachel Rubin, MD, a leading urologist and sexual health expert, to talk about hormones, menopause, libido, pelvic health, UTIs, and what’s happening in your body. In fact, since recording this episode, the majority of women on the team have spoken to their doctors about what Dr. Rubin shared. You’re about to hear what she wishes every woman knew sooner: Almost every issue that you're dealing with “down there” is likely related to changing hormones. If you’ve ever dealt with a UTI, leaking, urgency, dryness, painful sex, or that feeling that something is “off” down there, and you’ve been told it’s normal, it’s aging, or it’s just something you have to live with, this episode could change your life and have you asking, Why have I not heard this before? Do not learn this too late. By the time most women get the right information, they have already lost years to pain, discomfort, anxiety, and unnecessary treatments. No matter how old you are, all women need to understand this information. In this episode, you’ll learn: -Why recurring UTIs, urgency, frequency, and leakage are often hormonal, not “just sex” or “just aging”, and they can be fixed -What GSM (genitourinary syndrome) is, and how it impacts women in perimenopause, menopause, during breastfeeding, and even while using birth control -The safe, evidence-backed treatment that can prevent UTIs by more than half, and why almost no one tells women about it -Why many women need testosterone as a natural way to increase libido, mood, energy, orgasm, and the feeling of “I’m back” -That 1 in 4 women have a treatable condition that prevents orgasm, and why doctors don’t know how to check it, diagnose it, or treat it This is the conversation that will make you understand your body differently, and realize you have been tolerating things you do not have to tolerate. If you’re a woman in your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s and beyond, this is information you deserve to have now. Your health should not be a mystery. You should not have to suffer. This conversation will give you the truth about your health and may even save your life or the lives of a woman you love. For every single study and resource Dr. Rubin mentions, click here for the episode show notes. This episode is one, in particular, where the show-notes are a must-read. If you liked the episode, check out this one next: The #1 Menopause Doctor: How to Lose Belly Fat, Sleep Better, & Stop Suffering Now Connect with Mel: Order Mel’s new product, Pure Genius Protein Get Mel’s newsletter, packed with tools, coaching, and inspiration. Get Mel’s #1 bestselling book, The Let Them Theory Watch the episodes on YouTube Follow Mel on Instagram The Mel Robbins Podcast Instagram Mel's TikTok Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes ad-free Disclaimer Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Hey, it’s your friend Mel. This one’s the big one on women’s health. We’re talking hormones, menopause, birth control, UTIs, and sex, with Dr. Rachel Rubin—an acclaimed urologist and sexual medicine expert—because you deserve care, clear answers, and zero gaslighting. Please listen and share this with every woman you love.

I’m thrilled to be here. My mission is simple: when women understand their bodies across puberty, pregnancy, perimenopause, and menopause, they advocate better and live their best lives.

What’s a sexual medicine doctor versus a urologist?

Urologists treat kidneys, bladders, and genitals for all genders, and sexual medicine is part of that. Gynecology focuses on reproduction and cancer, but most doctors were never taught women’s sexual health, which is why so many of you hear dismissive advice and feel ignored.

What symptoms should we stop normalizing?

Frequent trips to the bathroom, dryness, painful sex, harder-to-reach orgasm, and low desire that bothers you—these have biology behind them and real treatments, including FDA‑approved options for libido. Don’t settle for endless leakage or recurring UTIs without a plan.

Give us hormones 101 across life stages.

Ovaries make estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone; they rise and fall through the cycle, spike in pregnancy, then crash after delivery, which is why breastfeeding often feels like temporary menopause. Testosterone declines with age and can be lowered further by pills like combined birth control or spironolactone, which can drive low desire, pain with sex, and UTIs; perimenopause is chaotic swings, and menopause is an abrupt shutoff.

What’s a big myth that needs to go?

That UTIs are only an antibiotic problem. Hormone shifts remodel the vaginal and bladder environment, a cluster we call genitourinary syndrome of menopause—even though it also shows up with birth control, breastfeeding, and cancer endocrine therapy. Micro‑dosed vaginal hormones restore the microbiome and prevent UTIs dramatically, and the American Urological Association issued guidelines on this in 2025.

You’re saying hormone changes at any age can raise UTI risk, and local vaginal hormones are a safe, effective prevention.

Exactly. We’ve known this since the nineties, but scary box warnings and stigma kept doctors from prescribing; grassroots work helped remove those warnings, and the data show these tiny doses are safe, even for very old or medically complex patients.

Help us picture GSM and why pH matters.

Without estrogen and testosterone, tissue thins, pH rises, bad bacteria flourish, and sex can hurt; with micro‑dosed vaginal hormones, acidity returns, natural lubrication comes back, urgency and leakage calm down, and UTIs drop. Think of it as watering a parched plant.

I had chronic UTIs in my twenties, two kidney scares, then years of dryness and urgency after kids—I white‑knuckled it with antibiotics, cranberry, and ointments.

You were underserved, and I’m sorry. Local vaginal hormones belong in your toolkit whether or not you’re on systemic HRT; our guideline even says to screen and treat GSM in people already on hormone therapy.

I pee eight or nine times a workday. I didn’t know that could be GSM and fixable.

Add vaginal hormones and in two to three months you’ll likely notice fewer bathroom runs and better comfort; it’s true rejuvenation and a foundation like sunscreen.

How do women use this in real life?

You can check vaginal pH at home for clues, but even with a normal pH, symptoms warrant treatment. Systemic absorption from local products is minimal; options include a low‑cost estradiol cream, a tiny bedtime insert, or an in‑office ring you change quarterly; I’ve seen nursing home patients get off pain meds once GSM was treated.

Is it the same approach for birth control–related UTIs, menopause, and older adults?

Yes, with a note: IUDs like levonorgestrel often spare ovarian hormone production, while many pills suppress testosterone and disrupt the microbiome, which is why some people notice more pain or UTIs on pills and relief with an IUD.

Your FDA story about the label change moved me. Can you share it briefly?

My mother was critically ill, and I had to fight through outdated warnings to get her the local estrogen she used at home; months later, the FDA began removing those labels—on her birthday. Advocacy works, and community action saves lives.

So who should consider vaginal estrogen?

Anyone with urinary frequency, urgency, leakage, pain with sex, dryness, or a history of UTIs. Even people with a history of breast cancer can discuss it, since observational data show no harm and even signals of benefit; it’s affordable now and could go over the counter.

What about younger or breastfeeding women?

Breastfeeding is a hormone‑low state—we called it the genitourinary syndrome of lactation—so the same symptoms appear. Local vaginal hormones are compatible with milk supply and are underused.

It feels hard to seek help for this in a ten‑minute visit.

The system isn’t built for these conversations, so build a pit crew: bring resources, ask directly, and know many clinicians were never taught this; we’re fixing that with training and free prescribing guides you can print and bring in.

For younger listeners who think UTIs just come from sex, should they ask about local estrogen to cut recurrences?

It’s a safe option and may halve infections with twice‑weekly use; we still want more data in the young, and we often favor IUDs over pills that lower testosterone. Despite strong evidence, only about nine percent of eligible Medicare patients were prescribed local therapy.

Besides UTI prevention, what does it do for sex?

It boosts arousal, restores lubrication, and reduces pain, while also calming urinary symptoms; think of it as women’s Viagra that also protects the bladder, and it’s extremely safe because it’s localized.

Connect the dots for peeing and infections.

The bladder and vagina are neighbors covered in hormone receptors; when levels drop, pH rises, good bacteria shrink, and irritation and urgency follow. Sex on dry tissue can feel like sandpaper and mimic a UTI; fixing hormones and the pH solves the root cause instead of chasing endless antibiotics.

Let’s touch HRT more broadly.

A 2002 media firestorm over one pill formulation led to blanket fear and box warnings, even though modern regimens and local vaginal products weren’t the issue; millions lost help for sleep, hot flashes, bones, and urogenital health, and a whole generation of clinicians never learned to prescribe. Today’s hormone therapy is safer and targeted, and it’s time to relearn the science and advocate for care.

What blows me away is how hormone health touches everything, yet most of us only think to see a primary care doctor or a gynecologist, not a urologist, even when issues range from UTIs to brain fog to brittle bones to what we feel downstairs.

After I had my daughter, I went through crushing postpartum depression and no one even raised hormones as part of the conversation.

That tracks, because hormone receptors live in nearly every tissue, but many clinicians were never trained to ask hormone questions or prescribe these therapies; postpartum medications now include progesterone‑based options, yet I’ve heard psychiatrists told their malpractice coverage wouldn’t support prescribing hormones.

For years, scary black‑box warnings froze research and scared off prescribers, but those labels were removed in February 2026, which finally lets us teach rheumatologists, neurologists, orthopedists, and others how to use this safely for better care.

Let’s talk testosterone: who is it for, what does it help, and what do people get wrong?

Think of hormone care in four lanes you can mix as needed: whole‑body estrogen and progesterone, whole‑body testosterone, and local vaginal hormones.

Great, so zero in on testosterone.

Testosterone is a human hormone made by ovaries and adrenal glands too, and women’s levels naturally decline starting in their thirties; this therapy isn’t a big, scary move, it’s often straightforward and low risk.

Men have many FDA‑approved options and clear targets, but in the United States there’s no testosterone product approved for women despite strong data and a global consensus that it’s effective and safe, while Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and the U.K. do approve it.

If I’m considering vaginal estrogen and also curious about testosterone, is DHEA a smart in‑between?

Vaginal DHEA is a tiny local dose that supports tissue health, microbiome, and UTIs, but it doesn’t lift libido like whole‑body testosterone; if cost and access weren’t barriers, I’d often choose vaginal DHEA as a first local option because those tissues like both estrogen and androgen signals.

When desire stays low despite solid estrogen and progesterone, I check a total testosterone and, if it isn’t abnormally high, offer a trial of a very low‑dose gel made from inexpensive male formulations.

Most women notice changes by four to six months—easier arousal and orgasm, spontaneous interest, better lubrication and mood, and sometimes steadier pelvic floor support and training gains—and the line I hear most is, I finally feel like me again.

So it often takes a few months to feel the shift.

Side effects at these doses are usually mild, like a little oilier skin or the odd pimple, which is why I favor daily gel you rub on your leg and avoid high, non‑adjustable pellets that can overshoot and cause issues.

Old doping scandals led regulators to make testosterone a controlled medication that needs a DEA license, which still discourages prescribers, and we’re pushing for saner rules.

Another gap is basic anatomy education, which is why handing a mirror to patients resonates so much; our research found about 23 percent have clitoral hood adhesions that no one was trained to look for.

Does that change pleasure or orgasm?

A quick numbed, office‑based release—think gently freeing a stuck eyelid crust—can ease pain and markedly improve arousal and orgasm for many, and some who had never climaxed could do so afterward; we even helped a seven‑year‑old whose pain vanished once her closed hood was opened and finally named.

Start by learning your own map so you can say where it hurts, using terms like clitoral hood and vulvar vestibule instead of just down there.

Your pelvic floor is a muscular bowl that can get too tight and drive urinary urgency, constipation, and painful penetration, and pelvic floor physical therapy plus gradual dilation can retrain it.

The vestibule is thin, hormone‑sensitive tissue around the urethra and vaginal opening, so when it’s dry, sex can sting or feel like a UTI; a gentle Q‑tip touch test at home can help you recognize that pattern.

Bottom line, sex shouldn’t hurt; what usually causes pain with penetration?

Hormonal changes and pelvic floor over‑tightening are the big two and often travel together, so we soothe the tissue with vaginal hormones, then rehab the muscles, and save nerve‑focused care for select cases.

With a short appointment, how do we get taken seriously and make progress?

Come prepared with clear language, ask whether your clinician is the right fit or can refer you, and build a pit crew with you as the driver while recognizing system time limits but still insisting on a diagnosis.

And if a clinician is listening and wants to learn this, where should they go?

Explore education from the Menopause Society and ISSWSH, use patient‑ready materials, and learn from colleagues’ courses and podcasts, because many specialties can add this care quickly and change lives.

If someone takes just one step after this, what should it be?

Invest in understanding your body and the menu of options so you can find the right person for a plan that fits you.

Where can we keep learning with you and stay current?

Follow me on social as Dr. Rachel Rubin, visit RachelRubinMD.com for courses and newsletters, and watch Pink Pill on Paramount Plus, Balanced on Apple TV, and The M Factor prequel on PBS to see how advocacy moved forward.

You’ve empowered us to see what we’ve been living with and that we don’t have to accept it, and I’m floored by what you shared, so what are your parting words?

You matter, and you deserve a team that helps you reach your goals and feel fully yourself.

Thank you for the work, the research, and the advocacy; we’re part of a wave of change now, so please share this, advocate for what you need, and know I love you, I believe in you, and you can create a better life.

Quick note before we go: this show is for education and entertainment and isn’t a substitute for medical, therapy, or professional advice.

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