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NEW SHOW PREMIERE: 4th and South - Jarvis Landry & Leonard Fournette talk NFL news, Tua & Dolphins, great Tom Brady stories

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In the first episode of ‘4th and South,’ NFL superstars and LSU legends Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette react to the big NFL free agency news — Tua Tagovailoa getting released by the Miami Dolphins, Mike Evans leaving the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the San Francisco 49ers, Travis Etienne to the New Orleans Saints, and the big question surrounding Tyreek Hill. Plus, they tell a never-before-told story about Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson and the Atlanta Falcons, along with some great stories about Tom Brady and Lenny's time with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Then they give their very early picks for Super Bowl 61, and discuss the struggles of leaving the game of football. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Please make sure to like, comment, and FOLLOW! Follow 4th and South on social: https://www.instagram.com/4thandsouth/   https://www.tiktok.com/@4thandsouth   https://www.facebook.com/4thandsouth/   https://x.com/4thAndSouthPod   https://www.threads.com/@4thandsouth Follow Jarvis and Leonard on social: https://www.instagram.com/juice_landry/ https://x.com/God_Son80 https://www.instagram.com/leonardfournette/ https://x.com/_fournette See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Episode summary

Fourth and South is finally here — Louisiana boys, every topic, every conversation, some laughs, maybe even a bag if you listen close; this was a three‑plus year dream and the timing’s right.

I saw you teasing it months back and hit your DMs the same day; we’re locked in now, ready to tell real stories, talk ball, and bring guests you’ll actually care about.

You know I got a ring in Tampa; but as a Miami guy, give me your read on their quarterback move — was it talent or health?

It was talent; they tried to build it up around him, but with those weapons he still didn’t separate, so the release made sense.

Then they dropped major money on a new guy with a thin resume; I’m not hating the bag, I just haven’t seen enough.

He’s young with tools and a longer runway at that position; felt more like paid potential and game management, so we’ll see if the fit unlocks him.

Where should Tyreek land next; and while we’re here, you been calling stuff — releases, MVPs — like a GM.

If he’s healthy he changes contenders on day one, and a KC reunion would be wild; it’s not magic, it’s patterns from playing and watching elite standards up close.

Free agency story for you — I was in Boston at the table with New England when Tom texted me to get back; I signed with Tampa before he even un‑retired.

Facts — you flew back and inked it, then the retirement news flipped; that’s the version the insiders never got.

Another one: we were on FaceTime with Deshaun about Atlanta, planning dinner, and he pivoted overnight to Cleveland with that fully guaranteed deal; he apologized, but that one stung.

We were literally packed to fly; deal dropped at sunrise — business is business, but the Falcons ‘what if’ would’ve been spicy.

That Bucs–Saints rivalry was real — loud building, quick hands, and zero love between the lines; grew up a Niners fan, but living that NFC South smoke was different.

Didn’t grow up a Saints fan either, yet respected those Drew versus Matt years and all the LSU ties in that dome.

Which locker room was your favorite?

Tampa, easy — not just the Super Bowl, it was the room; AB’s early‑morning swagger, Suh’s pro approach, and Tom knowing every detail made it feel like a masterclass.

I kept it real with Tom too — slide, bro; if you get hurt we’re done, Blaine can spin it but that’s our season.

And that Saints beef? C.J. Gardner‑Johnson stayed chirping, and Mike versus Lattimore lit fuses weekly.

Mike’s a dog — hope he keeps stacking years and gets every dollar he’s earned.

Breaking: Mike Evans to the 49ers on a three‑year deal; Brock Purdy just got luckier.

Hall of Fame trajectory and a perfect fit; Tampa should’ve slammed the door with an early offer, because replacing that presence is tough.

Godwin’s still there for now, but this likely points to how they’ll draft and reset around Baker.

Chris is a pro’s pro, but injuries make the math tricky; it’s hard to find that kind of weekly consistency.

Congrats again to Mike — our 2014 class is still holding real weight.

Report: Travis Etienne to the Saints; where do you slot that?

Good player and a different flavor next to AK’s receiving juice; I grade it a C to B depending on how they balance the room and support a young quarterback.

I lean B‑plus if they keep Olave; if they’re rebuilding, stockpile picks and do it right.

My Jacksonville chapter turned when I skipped picture day for my child’s birth and got suspended; getting released two weeks before kickoff, then learning Tampa’s playbook fast, tested me — but it ended with a parade.

Give me your current top backs.

Saquon, Derrick, and CMC stay at the front; I caught heat for sitting my bowl, but without NIL I had to protect my family and my draft stock.

If NIL existed then, twelve to fifteen a year might’ve kept me in school; and while the portal is a tool, running from competition won’t help when the league won’t let you transfer.

There are smart moves too — sometimes a fresh stop unlocks you, like we saw with guys who left, won, and proved it.

Lini’s Locks — who wins the AFC and NFC?

AFC is Kansas City with a vengeance and Kelce back rolling; NFC dark horse is the Rams with Stafford and that backfield, and I’ve got the Chiefs finishing the job.

What’s the long shot?

Chicago — young quarterback room, ascending coordinator in Johnson, and a front office drafting with a plan.

Quick one on Kyler — talented but small; did the size finally catch up?

He made real magic in Arizona, but the league is leaning back to prototypes; he’s still a day‑one starter in the right system, so wait for the best spot and let it rip.

Life after ball hit me hard — the calls stop, the routine’s gone, I cried through runs asking God for purpose, and chose marriage and faith over the noise.

That identity shift is brutal, and you carried it with honesty and work; use that light here, because your story can keep someone else from quitting — DFQ, always.

Do not quit, because if I had, we would not be here. Fourteen South is two South Louisiana guys who fought through adversity as brothers, fathers, and uncles, leaning on God's plan, and I'm grateful you're with us, so subscribe, follow, and donate if you can, and I'm Linna for Net.

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