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John wraps up his time at the combine talking with two of the best to cover the NFL; Albert Breer and Greg Cosell. John talks with the guys about the top NFL Draft prospects, what it's like covering the combine today compared to years ago, and how the NFL is turning more and more into an international sport. All that and more with Albert and Greg. Follow John on Twitter , Instagram and YouTube for the latest. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Use promo code “3ANDOUT20” on https://nicokick.com/zone for 20% off at checkout! Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow - for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Back in sunny Arizona on a Fugazi Friday, I’m running on fumes and rolling out two taped hits: Albert Breer with the league buzz and Greg Cosell on quarterbacks and tape truths—let’s go.
What’s the real combine chatter—free agency, trades, draft shape?
Free agency feels thin again, which supercharges trade talks, and this draft has depth but not many classic, can’t‑miss prototypes at the top; quarterback looks like Fernando Mendoza, then a fog bank.
If Fernando lands with the Raiders, what’s the ceiling and what does it take?
He’s worthy of going first and profiles more Goff than superhero, so the question is whether he can climb from top‑ten to top‑five and become a second‑contract guy when the bill gets massive.
He seems like a clean fit for a precision offense, but folks will nitpick the RPO diet; I also love his toughness.
He processes fast and throws accurately, made big‑boy throws in heavyweight games, and showed NFL‑style grit getting blasted and coming right back, the kind of thing a Brady type respects.
Max Crosby—tons of respect around the league; what’s the real trade math?
Age and recent wear complicate a two‑ones price, but his deal is movable and gives control; top teams would sniff around, though known late picks change the calculus, and his loyalty plus internal dynamics could keep him put.
AJ Brown noise feels louder outside than inside; how do you see it?
They like him, but cap work is coming, so they’ll listen if someone offers real value; dead money is a when, not an if, so you either rip the band‑aid or ride it longer.
One contender looked hot but cautious at the deadline; where’s their head now?
They see age pockets and limited draft ammo and want a sustainable build, while another club with a pile of picks plans to keep stacking youth at key spots.
Sean Payton handing play‑calling to Davis Webb raised eyebrows; what’s the signal?
Teams were coming for Webb, so Denver locked him in, which tells you how highly Payton and the quarterback room value him; if the offense hums, Webb’s on short lists for head jobs.
Philip Rivers the coach—where might that go?
He wants to finish coaching his sons, so NC State makes a lot of sense now, with the NFL still on his longer arc.
Trent Williams and the Niners—standard turbulence or real worry?
They’ve lived in this space and know his value; he might be their most indispensable player, and I’d expect them to find a way.
Did Sam Darnold’s run reshuffle front‑office thinking about QB paths?
It reinforced the power of an A‑level bridge at half the cost of the tier‑one deals, the Alex Smith model that lets you win, build, and pounce on your guy when the year is right.
Players keep skipping workouts—does the combine in this form survive?
It’ll exist but keep morphing, because NIL and player agency push top prospects to protect value and work where they control variables, while mid‑round hopefuls should compete here to rise.
International push—can the league really scale globally like that?
Goodell’s playbook is add inventory and expand markets—extra games, global slates, LA return—mirroring big‑league global brands to hit those giant revenue targets.
Greg, you’ve been coming here since the nineties; it’s a full‑on media circus now.
It used to be a quiet scout hangout, and now it’s wall‑to‑wall digital shows, but the tape still tells the truth.
Your Mendoza read?
He plays the job with timing, vision, and accuracy instead of sizzle traits, which matters more on Sundays than throwing hard and running around.
You learned QB play from Bill Walsh—what stuck?
Working on a Walsh project turned into long lunches and master classes on precision and detail, down to re‑doing throws for ball placement by inches.
Fans love the fireworks, but didn’t Mahomes just win with ruthless efficiency?
Coaches value the snap‑to‑snap craft, and postseason football rewards execution more than hero throws.
How would you coach Caleb Williams?
I’d drill his lower half daily to clean up the layups and then manage the balance between structure and improvisation, because even elite off‑script guys can leave open throws on the field.
System fits—why does Purdy click so well with Kyle?
In that offense the play‑caller is the star and the QB is the executor, and Purdy runs it at a high level; drop him into a heavy‑on‑the‑QB system and it’s a different ask.
Can the Eagles pivot to that Shanahan‑style world with Jalen Hurts?
They think he can, though he hasn’t lived as a pure timing player, and with motion and run‑game tweaks coming, the big watch item is how much he actually runs by design.
Quick hits: Herbert and Dak?
Herbert is a high‑end talent who battled a brutal line, and Dak has leveled up by mastering pocket nuance.
Where did all the classic tall pocket passers go?
The best athletes now play quarterback, so coaches ride mobility to win early, and college hash marks create space that makes QB run a bigger part of the game.
This class feels light on blue‑chippers; what about wideouts?
Fewer true first‑rounders overall, and at receiver it’s fit‑dependent with no do‑everything alpha; a USC slot type reminds me more of a Khalil Shakir‑style contributor, while Malik Nabers sits in a different talent bucket.
Puka’s rise is wild—sustainable?
He’s a physical, unique mover and a better route runner than people think, but that punishing style can shorten the peak, while a technician like JSN may age more gracefully.
That’s the show—big thanks to Albert Breer and Greg Cosell, and we’ll catch you after a little more sleep and a lot more tape; The Volume rolls on.