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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

What's Wright - Knicks WIN, New York’s title drought OVER, Brunson DELIVERS, what’s next for Wemby?

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Nick Wright reacts to the New York Knicks winning the NBA Finals in Game 5 and what it means for Jalen Brunson’s legacy. Then, Nick debates what went wrong for the San Antonio Spurs, and how the perception of Victor Wembanyama has shifted. Later, Nick recaps the first few days of the World Cup, including the USMNT’s incredible win over Paraguay. Finally, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #Volume All lines provided by  ‪@hardrockbet‬ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Episode 468, and we’ve got a fresh NBA champ again. The New York Knicks took the crown as underdogs, and I was in the building in San Antonio to watch it; I came around faster than most, but I started as a skeptic, and I’m tired of the take that San Antonio somehow “controlled” this series just because they started fast.

I wanted Wemby to get it, but by the end I felt the right team won. I love how the Knicks actually like each other; it feels like family over there.

Some of it literally is family with the Villanova crew, and the locker room embraced KAT and OG too, but let’s kill that fake narrative that early leads equal domination; if you blaze out then fade every time, you ran the race wrong. Quick hits from the night: Seahawks rings, Chalamet partying with the Knicks, Canes over the Knights, and I got reminded there’s no free money when my Spain bet face-planted.

You were there for the closeout—what was the scene like?

TV underrated how many Knicks fans took over the arena; about sixty percent of the folks who stayed for the trophy were wearing orange and blue, which flipped the vibe late—Spurs fans got tight while Knicks fans stayed confident.

Jalen Brunson was responsible for nearly half their points and took Finals MVP. How impressed were you with a small guard carrying a series like that?

That was a bucket-getting masterclass, and getting a bucket is still the most valuable skill in basketball; he averaged about thirty-two and a half, dropped forty-five in the clincher, and owned the fourth quarter like nobody else. He strung together a personal avalanche—fifteen of seventeen Knicks points late, three cold-blooded finishes around Wemby—and he’s so reliable and durable that if a Knicks fan says he’s the best player alive, you can’t blow it off.

Was this a one-off heater or the new normal for him?

It’s hard to top this exact run, but he’s now a guy you trust to level up in May and June every year.

How did that solo 10–0 run feel in the arena?

You could feel Spurs fans realize there was no answer coming, and that dread sat in the building. They were built to bother him, but he’s so strong and crafty that even with Wemby’s size, Brunson dictated the endgame.

After the game, Rick Brunson said Patrick Ewing is still the greatest Knick—agree?

Ewing’s résumé is deeper, and Clyde’s Game 7 masterpiece still stands tall, but Brunson just hit a peak New York hasn’t seen since; if he’s not already number one, he’s on track, and he’s the most important Knick in ages.

How will we remember this Knicks team after ending a fifty-plus-year drought?

They’ll be the team everyone cites for monster Finals comebacks and for the most lopsided playoff point margin we’ve seen, and they’ll be the example mid-seeds use to believe they can catch fire. Whether they’re labeled all-time great depends on how they defend it next season, but the fourth-quarter blueprint they rode every game is going to live on.

Was it even more impressive because they basically won the clincher without KAT?

He had two points and foul trouble, yet their structure held; Brunson carried, and the timely plays stacked up. Not many Knicks besides Josh Hart could say they played great individually that night, which makes it wilder.

What did this Knicks group have that others couldn’t match?

Real chemistry and role clarity, plus a steady chip-away mentality that never panicked. OG’s block-and-tip-in became instant lore, Josh Hart redefined glue guy, Mitchell Robinson ripped down the game-sealing board, and the front office had the guts to tailor the roster to Brunson and change coaches; Mike Brown pushed the right buttons.

All right, to the other side—let’s talk Spurs and Wembanyama.

Wemby came in with a perfect approval rating, but some rough plays, shaky sportsmanship, and fourth-quarter fades changed minds. What changed for you?

San Antonio lost because Wemby emptied the tank early and had nothing left late; he went quiet after a dominant start, sat with about five minutes left, didn’t challenge Brunson’s go-ahead, and got moved on a crucial free throw rebound. The insistence on saying they ‘dominated’ felt delusional, he wouldn’t tip his cap to New York, and the IndyCar-style analogy fits—if you burn push-to-pass early and get run down every race, you never really controlled it.

Fair hoops critiques off this series: crunch-time composure will come, he needs a go-to move, strength is a balance with durability, and he must build toward heavier minutes without breaking down. The flagrant habit is real too, and that landing-zone hit on Brunson should’ve been upgraded; and by the way, New York has beaten them six of seven since the in-season title, which says plenty.

Long term, is it fair to hold this against him?

Only if it becomes a pattern; think of 2007 LeBron—no one held that against him once he leveled up, but if the late-game stumbles and minute ceilings linger, it matters, and the sheen took a hit because of the arrogance and the flagrants.

Who holds the best-in-the-world belt right now?

It feels vacant; Brunson has a real claim but won’t get universal buy-in, it’s not Wemby today, Jokic and Shai just had rough exits, and the lane looks open for Luka if he’s healthy.

If you had to name one reason the Spurs lost despite leading for most of the minutes, what is it?

The Knicks were better, and their star was strongest when it mattered while San Antonio’s wasn’t; youth, shaky execution, and coaching errors piled on, including a late foul after an offensive board when the clock should’ve reset, plus Castle’s loud talk with inefficient shooting, Harper’s late misses, and Fox’s struggles on a huge deal. Nothing is promised—ask OKC’s first core, or remember the early Finals trips for Hakeem, LeBron, and Shaq that didn’t instantly lead back—so some humility would help.

Do people start using the in-season tournament winner as a Finals predictor?

Probably not, at least not yet. One last one—equal-odds, five-hundred-dollar free bet on next year’s title: Knicks or Spurs?

Knicks.

That’s where most of America would land, which tells you the champs are still a bit underappreciated and the Spurs a bit overhyped; like, subscribe, rate, review, and I’ll see you Thursday.

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