About this episode
Nir Eyal is an author, behavioural design expert, and investor. What does it mean to truly hold a belief you endorse? Maybe some of what we believe isn’t true. But more interesting is how beliefs are formed, and how they can be reshaped. So how do you update your beliefs in a way that actually serves you, rather than holds you back? Expect to learn why beliefs are so important and why they are just tools not truths, what’s wrong with the traditional view of behaviour change and motivation, why smart, disciplined people still quit when their beliefs weaken, how big of a problem limiting beliefs are, how to reframe rejection and failure, why rumination feels productive when it’s actually destructive, how to audit your beliefs and much more… Timestamps: (0:00) Why Belief Shapes Everything You Do (7:43) Are Spirituals Beliefs Weaker Than Religious Beliefs? (11:32) The Power of Choosing What You Believe (16:34) Why You Shouldn’t Treat Beliefs as Fact (20:17) Can Belief Be Engineered? (28:58) Rumination: Helpful or Harmful? (30:57) How to Rebuild Belief After Failure (38:28) Can You Really Create Your Own Luck? (41:19) You’ll Always Find Negativity If You Look For It (46:24) How Beliefs Can Physically Affect Your Body (52:29) How to Break Free From Limiting Beliefs (01:03:38) The Challenge Behind Changing Health Beliefs (01:08:18) You Have More Agency Than You Think (01:13:05) Why the Brain Defaults to Helplessness (01:15:37) You Need to Believe in Your Potential (01:21:46) The Placebo Prayer Protocol (01:26:34) Where to Find Nir Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get the brand new Whoop 5.0 and your first month for free at https://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom Get 15% off your first order of my favourite Non-Alcoholic Brew at https://athleticbrewing.com/modernwisdom Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom New pricing since recording: Function is now just $365, plus get $25 off at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Extra Stuff: Check out Nir's new book: http://geni.us/beyondbelief Free belief change guide Nir mentioned is here: http://nirandfar.com/belief-change Bonus content and the 30-Day Belief Transformation Journal: http://nirandfar.com/beyond-belief - Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: lnkfi.re/SN-Goggins #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: lnkfi.re/SN-Peterson #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: lnkfi.re/SN-Huberman - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode summary
Back again since that 2019 episode, and I’m claiming lucky‑charm status while we jump into your new book on belief, which sounds a lot softer than the productivity frameworks you and I grew up on.
Beliefs are the filter that shapes what we notice, what we feel, and what we do, so if they run your life, you want them tuned on purpose rather than by default.
People hear belief and think wishful thinking or The Secret, which makes the skeptic in me twitch.
There’s plenty of fluff out there, but the science is richer and more practical than the woo; for instance, open‑label placebos can help even when patients know they’re inert, because expectation still moves symptoms.
Placebos target illness, not disease: they change symptom perception, not tumors or broken bones, and rituals work too, which is why I started praying again for the health, mood, and longevity benefits even without certainty about the supernatural.
A big driver of today’s anxiety is rising secularism with thin community; the group that says spiritual but not religious often fares worst, while in Japan many do the rituals without the belief and still gain the psychological upside.
How do you square all this with not drifting into self‑delusion, especially if you pride yourself on agency and realism?
Our brains already predict reality more than they register it, taking in about 11 million bits a second while consciously handling roughly 50, so we all live inside a working model that our beliefs continuously edit.
Facts are objective, faith needs no proof, and beliefs sit between—open to revision when evidence and outcomes change—so I treat beliefs like instruments, not immutable truths.
But if beliefs feed on past patterns, how do we get escape velocity when history says I always fall off the gym or diet wagon?
Watch for the red flag of I’m the kind of person who, then examine the stuck areas to surface the hidden story beneath them, because the narrative you carry about yourself or others is often the real trap.
What’s missing in the classic behavior plus incentive model of motivation?
Motivation is a triangle: what you do, why it matters, and whether you believe the outcome and your own ability are real, and without that last side, effort collapses.
Can belief be engineered, or is it fixed if you just do not buy it?
You can test a new belief like an experiment, which I did after snapping at my mom; running four questions and turnarounds gave me alternative stories to try, and acting from those made me kinder and less reactive.
Why does rumination feel useful when it usually makes things worse?
It masquerades as problem solving but is really an avoidance loop about the past, so I schedule time to worry, and by the time it arrives most of it has lost urgency.
How do you rebuild belief after setbacks and straight‑up rejection?
Success is persistence plus adaptation, as shown by that jaw‑dropping rat study where brief rescue unlocked hours more endurance, so set checkpoints, keep going while you’re still learning, and only quit where sticking around will not change the outcome.
Some folks seem luckier; what did you learn about luck?
After birth lottery, luck is largely manufactured by attention and action, like optimists spotting a big message in a staged newspaper while pessimists count every photo and miss the prize sitting in plain sight.
So we are basically running a personal simulation.
Negativity bias makes many convinced the world is getting worse when the data says otherwise, and expectations can even conjure discrimination from a scar that is not there, which is why changing your mind should feel like a gift, not a defeat.
What about cultural nocebos and labels that quietly shrink us over time?
Beliefs can harm as much as help, from media‑spread symptom waves to a man crashing from placebo pills until told they were inert, and identity labels like imposter syndrome or I am not a morning person often become self‑fulfilling limits.
If someone is spiraling with ED, insomnia, or chronic fatigue, how do they turn it around without blaming themselves?
Start with medical rule‑outs, then use pain reprocessing: treat pain as signal not damage, stop urgent fixing, prove to your brain you are safe, add lightness, and re‑introduce feared moves to retrain the system.
People can undergo surgery using hypnotic focus without anesthesia, and I unwound my own back pain by gently repeating the trigger movement after healing, which taught my nervous system to dial down the alarm.
For sleep, the biggest driver of insomnia is worrying about insomnia, so I breathe and remind myself my body will take the rest it needs when I allow it, and if that fails I read something boring until drowsy returns.
Talk me through the neuroscience of agency, because people crave it even while some of this work is about letting go.
Belief fuels agency, and an internal locus of control is linked to better health, happiness, and contribution, as shown by a patient who dropped the Santa theory of rescue, did his own digging, and found an existing drug that saved his life.
Hold agency tightly for yourself and extend grace to others, because context still matters.
And learned helplessness just got turned on its head, right?
We likely start helpless and must learn hope through the brain’s hope circuit, which strengthens with small wins that teach I can do something here.
Placebo power shows up in wild places too, like that fake healing wand experiment.
If a safe, cheap intervention boosts outcomes, use it, like Serena Williams’ coach feeding her a confidence‑building stat that nudged her to play forward and change the match, because action born from belief rewrites results.
I like thinking in terms of a fixed window of physical potential and a much larger belief‑controlled slice inside it, and your snake‑bite‑then‑twig story shows how expectation narrows that window fast.
A past venomous bite trained a hyper‑vigilant system to collapse at a twig’s touch, which is a reminder that our window is wider than it feels and that retraining expands it.
Give me your playbook for secular, rational prayer.
I pray for qualities like patience, gratitude, and courage rather than outcomes, and I use that time for deep reflection that often surfaces real next steps, especially when paired with a community that can actually help.
I also slip into open houses of worship when I pass them and take a moment, no belief test required.
This is a much‑needed book that threads the needle between empowerment and not dismissing how real the struggle feels, so go check out what you have built, and until next time, get writing and we’ll do this again soon.