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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Hoops Tonight - Trades Lakers, Warriors, Celtics can make to LEVEL UP + Nuggets & Thunder weak spots | NBA Mailbag

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Jason reacts to two games from Wednesday night's slate (Denver Nuggets beating the Boston Celtics and Golden State Warriors beating the Milwaukee Bucks) before answering mailbag questions on topics including how the Los Angeles Lakers offense looks with LeBron James vs. Luka Doncic, vulnerabilities of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and the Oklahoma City Thunder, and trades teams can make to make them contenders. All lines presented by Hard Rock Bet .  #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome in from The Volume. Happy Friday. It’s mailbag day, and I’m recording this on Thursday so I can hit quick takeaways from Nuggets–Celtics and Warriors–Bucks before we dive into your questions. Subscribe, drop a like, and tag your mailbag notes in the YouTube comments so I can find them. Let’s talk hoops.

Nuggets–Celtics: without Nikola Jokic, the formula has been simple—defend like crazy, keep it close, and let Jamal Murray close. Zeke Nnaji’s been huge, giving them muscle in small looks while staying switchable; they communicated through Boston’s actions and took away the easy catch‑and‑shoot stuff late. Murray then went to work off those wide pin‑downs, punishing a show or two‑to‑the‑ball, hitting Nnaji on rolls, and spraying to shooters; Jalen Pickett and Peyton Watson knocked down the clinchers. That’s three wins without Nikola, with defense setting the table and Murray finishing.

Warriors–Bucks: massive half‑court night for Golden State. Steph leaned into that right‑elbow mid‑range curl and lived there, Moody and De’Anthony Melton got hot from deep, and the offensive glass flipped the game with a huge second‑chance edge. Draymond held up one‑on‑one against Giannis in key spots, and since that sideline blow‑up with Kerr he’s been locked in. If they stop the late‑game meltdowns, there’s real runway for a second‑half push.

Q: You said the Hawks would test your philosophy—has this season changed your mind? A: Not really. The vision was rim protection with Kristaps Porzingis, athletes around him handling the perimeter grind, and Trae setting the table. Porzingis hasn’t been healthy, the wings like Jalen Johnson and Zaccharie Risacher haven’t defended to the level needed, and when Trae has played the team’s defense slipped. If Trae and Porzingis had been available most nights and they were still under water, I’d revisit it. As is, I still believe in the template of athletes who dribble, shoot, pass, and switch; the Hawks just haven’t had the ingredients line up.

Q: Do we undervalue two‑way versatility? A: It matters a ton, but the rarest trait is the guy who can break down elite playoff defenses. Jokic is miles ahead of the field and defends well within scheme; Luka drives elite clutch offense despite his own limitations. Think of it like boxes: Anthony Davis checks a lot—rim protection, rebounding, roll threats—but not the primary self‑creation box against top defenses. Jason Tatum brings real defensive anchoring and glass work plus creation, which is why I had him in that top tier pre‑injury.

Q: Why does OKC keep giving up corner threes, and should Daigneault adjust? A: It’s a tradeoff. They press the ball, fly around, and send help, which means fouls and some open corners, but it also means turnovers and a flood of transition chances—they lead the league in points off giveaways. They’d give up fewer corners if they dialed it back, but they’d also live more in the half court, where they can stall. In a series, if a team like Denver takes care of the ball and hammers those corners, you tweak. Over an eighty‑two, they’ll ride the identity.

Q: What center should the Celtics chase? A: With big money on the wings, you need production that fits the books. Walker Kessler will need an extension, Nic Claxton won’t be cheap, and Robert Williams has the health question. I like a two‑look approach with Neemias Queta in drop plus a veteran who can post and pick‑and‑pop on a short, team‑friendly deal—Nikola Vucevic makes sense there. Daniel Gafford helps too, but his next number matters. The goal is two distinct center styles without crunching the cap.

Q: Defense—how much is physical tools, effort, or knowledge? A: You need a baseline in all three. Anticipation and angles let an average athlete beat a faster guy to the spot. Motor is non‑negotiable. If the positioning and reads are poor, like we’ve seen from Karl‑Anthony Towns at times, the tools don’t save you; if the effort dips, even a genius defender like LeBron looks ordinary. A wing with average size and speed can be really useful by nailing the scheme and playing hard.

Q: Would Nic Claxton help the Warriors more than Draymond in that MPJ mega‑trade? A: The structure was about salary matching. Claxton fits their switching menu and gives vertical rim protection they haven’t really had since Andrew Bogut. That said, just landing Michael Porter Jr. would be a big win; keeping Draymond and adding MPJ still moves the needle in a serious way.

Q: Is the Lakers offense better with LeBron running it than with Luka’s heliocentric style? A: I don’t buy that one approach wins on its own. Luka’s usage spiked because LeBron and Austin were out, which forces more risk and tougher shots. When everyone’s available, all three can thrive if there’s trust and shared touches. The best version of Luka and the best version of LeBron together beats either playing out of character.

Q: Nuggets winning without Jokic—are we overrating him or underrating his teammates? A: I never use on‑off as a crown. Basketball is a team sport, and nobody wins without high‑level help. Michael Porter Jr. thriving elsewhere was always likely at his natural spot. Denver’s wins without Nikola scream culture and commitment—Watson, Pickett, Nnaji stepping up—more than they knock Jokic’s impact.

Q: Can Julius Randle’s bully‑ball last in May and June? A: The mismatch scoring and playmaking from a big forward travels. My worry is his response on bad nights—early turnovers or misses can’t turn into checking out. Stay engaged, find other ways to win. Big picture, I’m high on the Timberwolves: Anthony Edwards is peaking, Jaden McDaniels is rising, Rudy Gobert’s offense is better, and the defense has shown a title‑level ceiling. Keep this up and they’re in my top tier soon.

That’s it for today. Thanks for riding with us, enjoy the weekend, and I’ll see you next time.

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