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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Colin Cowherd Podcast - Barstool’s Netflix Deal, Joe Burrow’s Trade Value? Tua’s Career Over? NBA Cup Is Great

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Colin’s joined by Danny Parkins, host of “First Thing’s First” on FS1. They start by discussing Barstool’s deal with Netflix and  the podcast space expanding from audio to video. They compare it to sports moving from radio to TV and explain why it isn’t “selling out”...it’s smart business (3:00).  They move to the criticism of the NBA Cup and they both agree the blowback is unfounded and  that the in-season tournament is a hit since the players bought in (19:00). Colin offers his new theory that explains the unprecedented drop off from Russell Wilson after seeing Tua on MNF. He argues that when smaller quarterbacks are afraid to get hit, they age overnight. They both agree that Tua’s career is likely over (29:45).  They discuss the evolution of Justin Herbert, and why they think he could win a title and an MVP under Jim Harbaugh (37:15). They also express sympathy for Joe Burrow after he gave multiple despondent press conferences and they debate whether his discontent is purely with the Bengals or if there are other factors (43:45). They also try to decipher what the trade value for Burrow would be if he forces a trade (58:00). Finally, Colin explains why Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza is an easy player to scout due to Indiana running an NFL style offense (1:00:30), and they discuss some of their bad sports bets (1:06:00).   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Episode summary

All right, time for a sit‑down with Danny Parkins; lots to hit in media, starting with Netflix jumping into podcasts and people calling Dave Portnoy a sellout, which I think is silly because competition for YouTube helps creators and companies, like when baseball moved from radio to TV and the pie got bigger.

It’s great for us and the companies, but the consumer now faces app hopping and paywalls, so I’m curious if Netflix wants new signups or just more time spent on the app; my hunch is it’s the latter.

Exactly—podcasts keep you inside the app, audio still dwarfs video for most shows, and Tony Kornheiser’s point about the NBA Cup was really that the product didn’t pull him to streaming, which is why incumbents like ESPN will do fine while NBC bleeds and Amazon can stomach losses.

And we can’t verify streamers’ numbers anyway, but Amazon’s vision is obvious with shoppable ads and Black Friday NFL—a live event that doubles as an instant mall makes perfect sense for them.

People are fatigued by paying for endless apps, which is why cable just ticked up for the first time in years—some folks are saying forget it, bundle me again.

I keep cable because of our job, but my friends on YouTube TV complain every time the price climbs, even if they can afford it.

That’s why Netflix in podcasts helps the consumer long‑term—breaking YouTube’s dominance improves leverage and choice for everyone.

There will be a short, awkward habit shift, even if most people already have Netflix.

On distribution, I’ve always believed you give away as much as you can to stay relevant, but at a certain age you should choose wealth over relevance—Oprah and Stern did it, and if a show loses some video views but gets life‑changing money while audio stays free, you take the deal.

Creators already built their audience in audio, so the payday funds teams and infrastructure while listeners still get the feed on Spotify and Apple; the online “sellout” noise won’t matter.

I opened my show defending the NBA Cup because the players clearly cared, way more than the bubble vibe, and I like Adam Silver taking big swings even if the court paint annoys some people.

I love that he borrowed the idea from European soccer, it adds real stakes and pride, and the league should quietly hang modest banners and stage finals in iconic college arenas like Cameron or Allen Fieldhouse.

Football thing I finally solved: smaller quarterbacks seem to fall off a cliff when the hits add up—watching Tua and Kyler made me rethink Russ’s slide, while Herbert’s size and sturdiness buy him margin.

Outliers like Brees don’t break the rule, and Tua’s concussion history has him playing not to get hit, which makes a pricey starter look limited fast.

He secured his money, and for health reasons it might be wiser to step away than try to stretch it for years.

It’s still wild that anyone preferred Tua over Herbert.

Inside note: Telesco initially saw Herbert as a bit mechanical, but live at the Rose Bowl you saw the size, athlete, and juice Cristobal’s conservative scheme masked, which is why in‑person scouting and sideline presence matter; Bo Nix blew me away up close with his build and command.

Those soft factors are real, and Herbert’s been outstanding despite coaches, injuries, and chaos; he’s a top‑five talent regardless of the zero playoff wins narrative.

Interceptions happen to the greats and even Super Bowl winners, so stat‑watching misses the point.

He’s had a couple ugly days, but he’s too good not to bag an MVP and a Lombardi.

I always feel for stars who get drafted into dysfunction—Burrow has lived with bad lines, tight budgets, and a patient ownership model, and his pressers sound like a guy weighing everything.

He strikes me as someone who loves ball but dislikes fame, and the burglary, injuries, and losing wear on you in a market where you can’t hide; if it’s more about the Bengals than the sport, a trade makes sense.

Like late‑era Brady grumbling about weapons, Burrow’s frustration tracks with taking hits while the protection lags.

I hope he doesn’t retire, but almost every team should call with their quarterback and multiple picks if there’s even a sliver of daylight.

We still undervalue elite quarterbacks—four firsts for a healthy one is not crazy.

As Nick says, you’d trade firsts every year a superstar is on your roster, and the betting market shows how quarterbacks swing point spreads by miles.

Lose the quarterback and your season collapses no matter how many blue‑chippers you kept; the position is priceless.

No argument there.

On prospects, I like Mendoza over McCarthy because Indiana runs pro concepts that make evaluation straightforward, he’s bigger with better traits, and Michigan’s run‑heavy approach clouds the tape; “he’s a winner” isn’t a scouting report.

Context matters, like Clemson’s system and Burrow’s stacked LSU cast in that title game.

Gambling confession: sometimes you know fast you misread motivation, like the Panthers game where coaching choices doomed a good position.

I’ll say I was on the right side even when I lose, and I hold grudges—Atlanta knocked us out of a pricey survivor, so I blacklisted them.

They’ve been my money pit for years—totally unpredictable.

Kyle Pitts teased but Bijan is the real, scheme‑proof star who could be a top‑ten player next year.

A GM told me Bijan is as clean as a back since LaDainian, and special running backs in round one can be smart again; I’m high on Jeremiah Love too.

With rookie slots and a fifth‑year option, a late first‑round back is a sharp play even if Clyde or Sony didn’t hit the way teams hoped.

Danny Parkins, always a great chat.

Hours fly by—we’ll do it again; The Volume.

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