About this episode
This is a special compilation devoted to a subject very close to my heart and currently consuming a large percentage of my waking hours: writing. Over the years, I’ve asked some of the writers I admire most questions like: How do you choose a project and stay with it? How do you begin when inspiration refuses to show up? How do you build a practice that reliably produces pages? And how do you keep going when you fear your pages are terrible? Listen in to some of my favorite authors answer these and other questions. Please enjoy this special compilation on the craft of writing. This episode is brought to you by: ProLon science-backed Fasting Mimicking Diet that helps activate cellular renewal through fasting, while still eating nourishing meals AG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement Timestamps: 00:00 — Introduction 01:52 — Elizabeth Gilbert: Choosing and committing to a project 06:25 — Anne Lamott: Shitty first drafts and taking it bird by bird 13:04 — Joyce Carol Oates: Don’t wait for inspiration 15:47 — Jerry Seinfeld: Building a writing system 26:27 — Mary Karr: Revision and throwing out 1,200 pages 35:08 — Brandon Sanderson: Consistency, word counts, and output 45:04 — Seth Godin: Fear of bad writing Elizabeth Gilbert is the author of Eat, Pray, Love ; Big Magic ; and City of Girls . Her ten books have sold more than 25 million copies worldwide. Anne Lamott is the author of 20 books, including Bird by Bird , Operating Instructions , and Help, Thanks, Wow , and co-author—with her husband Neal Allen—of Good Writing . Joyce Carol Oates has written more than 70 books, including Blonde and We Were the Mulvaneys , and won the National Book Award for her novel them . Jerry Seinfeld co-created and starred in the sitcom Seinfeld —which ran nine seasons and won 10 Emmys—and later created Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee and wrote Is This Anything? Mary Karr wrote the bestselling memoirs The Liars’ Club , Cherry , and Lit and her book on writing, The Art of Memoir . Brandon Sanderson created the Mistborn and Stormlight Archive series, completed Robert Jordan’s Wheel of Time , and raised more than $41 million on Kickstarter for four secret novels. Seth Godin has written 21 bestsellers published in 40 languages—including Purple Cow , Linchpin , and The Practice —and a daily blog of more than 10,000 posts. * For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show , please visit tim.blog/podcast . For deals from sponsors of The Tim Ferriss Show , please visit tim.blog/podcast-sponsors Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter ( 5-Bullet Friday ) at tim.blog/friday . For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts . Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books . Follow Tim: Twitter : twitter.com/tferriss Instagram : instagram.com/timferriss YouTube : youtube.com/timferriss Facebook : facebook.com/timferriss LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timferriss See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .
Episode summary
It’s late, I’m writing in some undisclosed foreign spot, and I needed this medicine myself: a compact dose of advice for choosing ideas, getting pages done, surviving terrible drafts, revising, and continuing when the work looks like absolute garbage.
Inspiration feels as if it arrives from somewhere beyond us, but I’m a hard-ass once it does. If you’ve abandoned thirty projects, you don’t get to leave the current one because a dazzling new idea walked in; finish something first.
I make competing ideas pitch me like I’m funding them. A vague notion about birds can come back when it has a real proposal; an idea that knows exactly what it wants from my time has its act together. I don’t let seductive ideas boss me around.
I never promised finishing a book would heal all the Swiss-cheese holes in you or win your parents’ respect. That’s inside work. What I can do is help you quit not writing: sit down, make an awful first draft, and shrink the task to one page or one chapter.
My brother once faced a massive overdue school paper on birds, crying at the kitchen table. Our dad said: take one bird, learn one little thing, write one paragraph, then move on. You only see as far as headlights at night, but that’s enough to travel the whole road.
Perfectionism is the oppressor’s voice. Your book may arrive less like a crystal palace than a scrappy little encampment, and that is miraculous. The critic helped keep us safe when we were small, so thank it, give it an upstairs library job, and turn down that ugly radio station.
You create the mood by working; don’t wait around to be inspired. Take a walk if you need one, then begin. And guard your time—families, partners, committees, favors, all of it can consume the energy you meant to save for the page.
Systemize it. Creative talent is a horse: learn to ride it or it’ll throw you. A writing session needs an ending, because an open-ended demand to solve a problem is torture; set the alarm, work until it rings, then get up. Cookies and milk, you’re finished.
Accept that you’re mediocre and put in tonnage. The brain is a stupid little dog, not the infinite mind; it likes a confined plan, repetition, and knowing what happens next. Nobody writes all day—not even Shakespeare. An hour is plenty.
I tossed about twelve hundred pages after years of work, then spent two days in a bathrobe with cooking shows, curry, and despair. A novelist friend asked, “Who hasn’t written a bad book?” Fair enough. Maybe it was simply the book waiting its turn, and I had to become willing to fail.
Revision is clawing through it sentence by sentence until memory starts giving up its goods: cold water at your feet, peaches, a mother’s drink, the terror of being seventeen. Put yourself back in a childhood room and ask your body what it can smell, taste, touch, want—and what prevents it.
Writing is good for you even if you never monetize it. In class, we pretend you want a full-time writing career, then I tell you to learn when to ignore me. Advice is a toolbox: Stephen King can thrive without an outline while Orson Scott Card needs one. You must test what works for you.
Most writers need consistency, not a heroic cabin binge. Set word or hour goals, use a spreadsheet, claim one place and maybe one soundtrack for writing, and attach it to a habit you already have. A steady two thousand new words a day can become roughly three hundred thousand usable words in a year after revision.
Writer’s block is really fear of bad writing, and the cure is to write badly without making yourself publish it. Do enough bad work and good work starts slipping through. Replace “just do it” with “merely do the work”: stop narrating, catastrophizing, and making drama around the task.
You may be inventing an excuse to stop before the climb gets hard. “Not ready to publish” is your judgment about a promise and a marketplace, not an objective fact; hire an editor who can tell you where the light is. And make it generous: if there’s somebody who needs a hand, the work stops being a performance of you.