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The Daniel Cormier Show - Ilia Topuria GUARANTEES Justin Gaethje KO in FIRST TWO MINUTES at UFC Freedom 250

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Ilia Topuria IS BACK on the Daniel Cormier Check-In series, this time ahead of his main-event, championship fight against Justin Gaethje at UFC Freedom 250 in Washington D.C., in what will be one of the biggest fights in MMA history! Ilia talks about his knockouts of Charles Oliveira, Max Holloway, and Alexander Volkanovski and what it felt like to be on that historic win streak. Then he gives his thoughts on Justin's win over Paddy Pimblett and calls out the level of skill the two showed in that fight. And don't miss how he thinks the fight will play out, and why he's doubling down on KNOCKING OUT Gaethje in this historic fight on the White House lawn. #Volume All lines provided by  Hard Rock Bet See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Episode summary

Unification night on the South Lawn is here, champ—how’re you feeling heading in?

I feel great; he’ll try to unify, and I’m walking out undisputed.

It started respectful, then turned spicy after the handshakes; why the shift?

However it turned, we’re fighting; he wants my head, I want his, and I believe I’m the better man.

Before we look ahead, take me through Charles and why you told him you were sorry it had to be him.

I was lined up for Islam, got Charles instead, and apologized because I like him and knew what would happen; he’s a great person, but once I landed clean, I had to keep going until the ref waved it off.

You became a two‑division champ fast and now headline at the White House; any disappointment Islam did not happen?

No; I only worry about what I can control, and I’m happy to headline against Justin.

He told me he went wild on purpose against Paddy Pimblett; what style from him actually works against you?

He may hunt takedowns and pressure, but I’m elite at closing distance and cutting angles, and that pace breaks people—when they finally pause, my moment comes.

Technically, your base never crosses and your power comes from your hips; if I were him, I’d keep you from ever setting your feet with constant movement.

I do not chase reckless; I jab, feint shots, chip the legs, and walk you down until I can plant and fire.

You’ve calmly called big knockouts before; do you really see an early finish here too?

If he marches straight in, I put him to sleep in two minutes; if he runs, it takes longer, but the finish still comes, and with a smooth cut and full camp, I can beat him on the feet or on the mat—a miracle is what he’d need.

Fans love simple heroes and villains, but sometimes the so‑called bad guy wins; Americans will be tuning in.

We’re all Americans in our own way, and confidence is not villainy; I’m not chasing approval, only control over my thoughts and emotions.

What still drives you after two belts and a massive headliner?

My dream shifted from chasing belts to enjoying the present, and one day someone new will push the sport beyond what we did.

Ilya Topuria faces Justin Gaethje at UFC Freedom 250 on the South Lawn; follow his Road to the White House series, and thanks for riding with us—until next time, peace.

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