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Episode summary
I used AI to create about 15 billion dollars of value last year. Don’t try to beat the robots by working harder. Use AI to do the thing nobody has done yet. Find the magic opportunity. My mission is digital empowerment: Bitcoin is digital money, and I think it’s the strongest long-term capital asset.
You built a huge Bitcoin business, but what did you create before it, and what do you want ordinary people to understand?
We built MicroStrategy around business intelligence—pulling insight from enormous raw datasets. During the 2020 lockdowns, I found what became my biggest idea, really Satoshi’s idea. The company grew from roughly one billion to around 60 billion dollars after embracing Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is digital capital: encrypted property bound to a person, family, company, even a small country. Strong countries have always crushed weak ones. A private key gives a small player something powerful people cannot simply seize.
What makes Bitcoin harder to take than dollars sitting in a bank?
Carry cash through an airport and it can be questioned or confiscated. Put it in a bank and you have a counterparty. Send money abroad and you may need approval from banks and governments. With Bitcoin, I can move a million dollars across cyberspace in seconds or exchange it directly for a truck without asking seven banks and 16 governments.
People see 10,000 dollars earning four percent and assume they’re safe. What are they missing?
A Miami Beach acre that cost 10,000 dollars a century ago can cost 10 or 20 million now. Same land, weaker currency. I think the dollar lost about seven percent of purchasing power annually across a century. Cash is a slow leak, and many currencies fail much faster.
You need scarce, desirable property: real estate, productive companies, gold, or Bitcoin. But a house brings taxes, insurance, and maintenance; commercial property means running a difficult business. The average person shouldn’t have to become a landlord, tax specialist, or stock picker merely to save.
Why not simply buy an S and P 500 index fund—or gold?
The S and P is a sensible conventional answer, historically better than cash. Gold isn’t terrible. Recent numbers I cited were roughly 15 percent for the S and P, 12 for gold, 18 for the Nasdaq, and 33 for Bitcoin. And people in Turkey, Argentina, Venezuela, or much of Africa may not access American stocks. Own capital assets factories, robots, and AI cannot manufacture without limit: gold, leading companies, or one of 21 million Bitcoin.
AI is the profound surprise. How does accelerating intelligence change the future?
Technology looks broken until suddenly it works. Speech recognition struggled for decades; now AI can research, draft contracts, and write scripts. Robots will cook, clean, and take out the trash. We’re approaching products that feel perfect. One day we’ll look at a dumb oven that burns food and ask why it had no intelligence.
Could AI and robotics make goods so abundant that money loses relevance?
Half right. Food, electricity, entertainment, education, and basic care can get cheaper. Henry the Eighth lacked things much of the middle class has now. But technology will not make every beach house, private jet, perfect ski slope, or exceptional experience abundant.
People create another rung on the ladder. You can eat for a few dollars, yet people pay hundreds at restaurants. Basic needs may get cheap, but aspiration, exclusivity, and scarce goods remain. Money and wealth are not going away.
I’m not sure new jobs arrive fast enough for everyone displaced by knowledge work and robots.
There will be dislocation and political unrest. Nearly everyone once farmed; then we got accountants, lawyers, filmmakers, podcasters, and Instagram careers. The answer is freedom to create businesses, not restraints of trade. Thousands of businesses nobody can imagine yet can absorb talent and create value.
By 2025, equity and convertible bonds had gone as far as they could to fund more Bitcoin. We needed a new credit instrument. I worked with ChatGPT on Bitcoin-backed preferred stock, STRK, then a short-duration preferred designed to hold near 100 dollars through a monthly adjustable dividend. Bankers said, “Nobody’s done it.” Exactly. The offering became a 2.5 billion dollar IPO, then another eight billion through a shelf; combined credit sales reached about 15 billion.
So AI helps entrepreneurs discover ideas outside the usual box?
Learning several AIs is basic literacy, like reading, writing, arithmetic, and computers. But you still need domain knowledge. Make a new product or radically improve an old one. Try to make something magical—software that does the work of a million accountants for ten dollars a month.
What should an 18-year-old study now?
Study technology on the steep part of the S-curve. Don’t spend years mastering something at diminishing returns while a new curve takes off. Digital intelligence, digital assets, biotech, and interfaces that make your parents say, “That’s magic”—that’s where I’d look.
I’d ask whether AI-connected smart glasses can replace typing, or whether a wristband, Neuralink, or another interface makes parts disappear. Learn to ask AI the unanswered marginal question—not how to do a task it already does.
Creators worry AI will flood platforms with cheap videos while attention stays finite. Doesn’t that make content fragile?
Ask whether AI improves your content, marketing, or distribution. The moat is exceptional work people truly want. I watched a long 3D walkthrough of a 16th-century warship and couldn’t look away, despite no prior interest. Talent that makes something riveting still wins.
Every platform gets pushed to its edge by a few geniuses. The opportunity is the zero-to-one window: too early, you hit a wall; too late, leaders are far ahead. Focus and commit. Four to 10 years is normal. Use AI to improve the product, translate it widely, and test whether the market values it.
Guard your time. Success kills businesses when one good thing becomes 10 distractions. Improve the core or kill the moderate experiment. Don’t be third-best at everything; be exceptional at one thing.
What foundation would you give young adults?
Focus your energy, guard your time, train your mind and body, and think for yourself. Curate your friends and environment. Keep promises. Stay cheerful and constructive. Then upgrade the world. A mission gets you out of bed; mine is digital empowerment.
You tell people to hold Bitcoin, yet your company sold some. Why?
We own about 847,000 Bitcoin and I still regard it as the best long-term capital asset for money you won’t need for at least four years, ideally 10. Markets believed that if we sold, Bitcoin and our company would collapse. We sold enough to show we could meet dividends from Bitcoin without destroying the market. Bitcoin traded up. If people doubt you can do a backflip, do the backflip.
I think Bitcoin can appreciate around 30 percent annually for 20 years, then nearer 20 percent, and outperform the S and P by one-and-a-half to two times. That’s conviction, not a reason to buy it with rent due in 12 weeks. First spend 20 dollars a month on a serious AI subscription and learn. Then build a long-term portfolio based on your study and risk tolerance.
Study applied statistics: Taleb, randomness, skin in the game, black swans—how to separate signal from misleading data. Read deep history, too. Currency debasement has happened again and again. History reduces the arrogance of believing you’re the first human to face a problem, and shows that someone may already have found a way through it.