About this episode
Christina Warren returns to the show to discuss Apple’s big month of product announcements — in particular, the iPhone 17e and MacBook Neo. And we pour one out for the Mac Pro.
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Episode summary
Kicked things off with baseball banter and a hat flex, then I groused about Netflix’s Opening Night telecast. The score graphic was tiny inside a huge box, the main camera looked cloudy, and they cut away during the first-ever ABS challenge to do a bland dugout interview.
I watched on an iPad and thought the stream itself held up, but you’re right: production choices make or break live sports. Amazon’s football coverage shows the tech is there; execution is the real test.
Before we dive in, how’s your recovery going after surgery?
Seven weeks out from a C6–C7 artificial disc replacement and doing well. I woke up with brutal shoulder and arm pain, pushed for an MRI, found a herniation pressing a nerve, and opted for surgery to avoid lasting numbness in both hands.
Glad you’re on the mend. What a month for Apple—let’s focus on iPhone 17 E and MacBook Neo.
Huge month. The E and the Neo feel like siblings: true value gear that finally welcomes first‑time Apple buyers, kids, and anyone on a tighter budget.
The 17 E is miles better than last year’s model. MagSafe is back, the chip is fast, and the package feels right for prepaid lines, work spares, or a kid’s first phone, though I’d still steer many people to the regular 17 if they can swing the extra cash.
As a camera nerd, I’d upsell to the 17 for the second lens, low‑light gains, and that sharp new selfie camera, but I get that six hundred dollars is still real money. For many, the E will be plenty.
This is the best non‑Pro base iPhone in years, and the E finally feels like a proper value tier instead of an old model hanging around. Way better than playing the refurb lottery with carriers.
Apple seems to be moving away from stacking prior‑year phones on the price ladder, and the lineup is cleaner for it. ProMotion on the 17 and a meaningfully better front camera explain why they won’t want to knock that model down a year from now.
That selfie upgrade is a big swing, especially for video. A square sensor that frames cleanly in either orientation is a smart way to pull people up from the E when front‑facing quality matters.
I even missed calling out that selfie sensor in my review; it’s a real differentiator. Meanwhile, the E’s single rear camera looks clean, the phone is light like an Air, MagSafe is back, and the base storage bump finally treats users right.
On chips, supply pressure at TSMC and Apple’s volumes likely pushed them to use newer binned silicon instead of keeping old lines alive. That’s good for buyers, even if binning means some GPU cores ship disabled for consistency.
Right—if they left mixed GPU core counts in the wild, people would play return roulette to chase the ‘lucky’ ones. Uniform specs avoid that circus.
On to MacBook Neo: love the positioning, the ads, and the colors. The fly in the ointment is one slow USB‑C port; even cheap Chromebooks often have better IO, so I’m betting the next revision is the true slam dunk.
Apple framed the second port as an engineering lift on an A‑series design, but the dev kits proved fast ports are possible when cost is no object. They should have marked the fast port in hardware; the macOS pop‑up helps, but people will still fumble in classrooms and meetings. Two beats one, though—one‑port laptops were a bad bet for how Mac users actually work.
Despite the quibbles, five hundred dollars with education pricing is wild. It’s perfect for a first Mac at home or for parents who don’t want Windows or ChromeOS. I wouldn’t pick this exact model for a heavy college workload, but a 12GB update next round would change that.
That price stunned me too; the education discount is a big percent off at this tier and dead simple to get. It puts Apple back in the conversation even if Google still owns fleet management in schools.
Eight gigs is workable today, but web tabs are heavy, and 12 gigs will be a quality‑of‑life boost. Power users need more, sure, but for most first‑time buyers the Neo’s balance is right.
On the Mac Pro’s end, I mostly feel for 2019 buyers. The M2 tower was a cul‑de‑sac, and the Studio is the real pro box now. The Intel era ended on a sour note, but Apple Silicon’s launch more than made up for it.
Mac Pro history was a string of one‑offs with long gaps, so the quiet EOL lands better paired with Neo’s feel‑good story. It signals the platform’s health, not a retreat from power.
It’s almost a flex: consumer laptops now outrun that pricey tower. Studio and Mini cover the range cleanly, and fewer SKUs serve buyers better.
Colors: Neo wins with citrus and indigo, and the color‑matched keys are delightful. I’d love the 18 E to mirror that playbook with at least two fun hues every year; silver can stay for schools that prefer neutral fleets.
Turn the saturation up a touch and rotate special colors yearly. Citrus pops, indigo looks distinct, and pink reads close to silver in some light, but the lineup feels lively again.
This was a blast. Thanks for coming on, and keep healing up. We’ll leave it there.