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Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham DISHES on Caitlin Clark sideline spat & her technical foul w/ Fever | West Wilson

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Sophie Cunningham and West Wilson are back with a loaded episode of Show Me Something. Sophie gives an inside look at the Indiana Fever's rocky start to the WNBA season, addresses the viral Caitlin Clark timeout controversy with head coach Stephanie White, explains her first technical foul of the year, previews her matchup against Angel Reese and the Atlanta Dream, and shares why she believes the Fever are still built for a deep run. West recaps his trip to Italy, reacts to the latest ‘Summer House’ reunion drama, opens up about being called out on national television, and shares his thoughts on dating, friendships, and navigating reality TV fallout. Plus: Knicks NBA playoff fever takes over New York, West prepares for his kickball championship, & Sophie and West debate Chick-fil-A vs. Popeyes. All lines provided by ‪ Hard Rock Bet #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Came in sun-kissed, hair doing its own thing, J Williams on the screen behind the camera, and we’re diving straight into hoops and the Fever’s mini skid.

We’re circled on everyone’s schedule, every game is on national TV, and with new pieces we’re still building rhythm and trust, which is why these early bumps are happening under a microscope.

Do you feel the target is also about CC and the attention around your team?

For sure—the attention is real, our record isn’t where we want it, and people expect last year’s finish on day one.

That timeout clip with CC and your coach looked intense, and people also made a thing out of her skipping postgame media—what actually happened?

Two ultra-competitive people want the same thing; they talked it out and moved on, and the media angle got blown up.

She lifted after the game, nothing dramatic, and sideline hits usually go to whoever’s rolling—Portland even asked for AB first, coach kept starters in the huddle, so I stepped in.

Also, congrats on your first tech—your arm swung and clipped her; accidental, but I get why it read spicy.

The whistle blew, my shoulder got grabbed, my arm flung; if I meant it, it would’ve landed different.

Big one tonight: Atlanta’s guards Ryan Howard and Allisha Gray can fly and score, Angel Reese pounds the glass, and we’ve got to cool their role players so the stars don’t snowball runs.

My playoffs are tonight too—semis and, if we advance, the final later; co-ed rules mean we obsess over lineups, and the group chat is all caps and corny hype videos.

Stack your best defender at first, lock the middle, and yes, I now stretch like it’s a job.

Do you all stretch or sneak beers? I’ve pulled hamstrings in this league and I’m thinking no beer tonight.

I show up early just to get loose; it beats limping through game one.

I don’t get hooping buzzed or high—if you need that to function, it’s time to check the why.

I had college teammates who practiced high and I could never do it; also got suspended once for a dumb road-trip decision near the student section.

I once broke curfew for a concert, didn’t even drink, still had to lock in the next day because eyes were on me.

On the reunion: people joked we ‘fled’ to Italy for a wedding; someone even snapped a customs pic, and yes, we split bills sometimes—flights and hotels on me, she grabs other stuff.

When Amanda stood up, did you want to push back harder or just ride it out—and where do things stand with the crew now?

We agreed one of us should stay on stage, she needed a breather, and I can take criticism because I did lie and made a mess; clout-chasing takes don’t land when my closest friends predate the show.

After, we had calmer conversations and some fences are mending; Dara’s callout stung because of our history, but it was fair and I’ve thought about it daily.

And the whole ‘monetizing your drama’ thing?

That’s the machine; if people make jokes for a check, they seem fine, though I get Amanda’s point about not piling on others the same way.

Headline: Surf Lodge tapped Popeyes as the chicken tender partner this summer—thoughts?

Surf Lodge is the Sunday scene, famous for towers of tenders, so I’m curious how a Popeyes collab works in their kitchen.

House strips or not, Popeyes slaps.

Remember the sandwich craze? Chick-fil-A’s great but closed on Sundays, so Popeyes won a lot of weekends.

Chick-fil-A breakfast is elite, but lunch and dinner are overhyped for me.

It’s a basic chicken patty—solid, not sacred.

Quick hits before you go: Knicks, Spurs, and the rest of the Finals—where’s your head?

Knicks energy is electric, MSG spills into the streets, and it’s refreshing to have two likable teams—give me Knicks in seven, and Wemby won’t have two off nights in a row.

It’s a great matchup, Knicks fans ride hard, Spurs’ kids play fearless, and keeping Victor on the floor matters; I’d love my Knicks friends to get a ring, but part of me wants Pop to taste one more.

Brunson’s unreal—my guy Dave even played AAU with him back in the day.

We’ve got ties around the league, and Josh Hart might be the ideal teammate—no ego, does all the little things, brings good vibes.

That’s the show—see you next time.

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