About this episode
Ian Edwards is a comic, actor, and host of the "Soccer Comic Rant" podcast. Watch his new comedy special, "Ian Edwards: Untitled," now streaming on YouTube. https://youtu.be/q_4pEVD6Y3k?si=b0IIPBNl-9vdx6Sb https://linktr.ee/ianedwardscomic Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up at https://dkng.co/rogan or with my promo code ROGAN. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new DraftKings customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Get 1 promo code to redeem discounted NFL Sunday Ticket subscription and max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. NFL Sunday Ticket: YouTube TV base plan (not included in this offer) required to watch Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. Subscription auto renews yearly at then-current price (currently $378 for YouTube TV subscribers, or $480 for YouTube subscribers); cancel anytime. Terms, restrictions, embargoes and eligibility requirements apply. No refunds. Commercial use excluded. Addt’l terms: https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/draftkings/. Offer ends 9/29/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode summary
How have you not been here in five years? I rebuilt the studio to feel real—wood, not fake brick. Fake brick bugs me. Comedy’s been addicted to brick backdrops since Evening at the Improv. Wild seeing those old photos—Ellen, Rock, Sandler—and realizing we were babies back then, with no idea how any of this worked.
I like the place—sauna walls vibe. Hate plastic brick. I started at the Comic Strip’s lottery nights, pre-dreadlocks. The second I felt comedy, I was in for life. Doing Long Island made me realize the TV people were in Manhattan, so I moved. I’m from Jamaica—one channel growing up—then I got here and locked onto SNL for Eddie Murphy.
Same Boston lesson: TV meant you could work anywhere. I tried to backdoor your age with Eddie’s seasons. SNL used to mint movie stars—Myers, Hartman, Sandler, Spade—and then they kind of killed comedy movies with all that woke nonsense.
They finally picked someone funny in Cam Patterson. I brought him up at the Vulcan, had a tag for him, told him it’d only make him better than me—and two months later, he’s with my manager. I was mad and happy. He’s funny and he works.
That one-minute Kill Tony grind is brutal. The ones who excel—Ari, Maddie, Hans, William—work like animals. William’s a character; Joey Diaz is the ultimate—funny on contact. Theo found that wandering, resonant gear. Brody was infectious; people repeated his lines in the parking lot.
Some comics have a ‘cheat code’ voice—Cat, Joey, William. If they add writing, you’re done. I used to mess with Brody like he was an open-miker and he’d play along. Meanwhile, a lot of good comics vanished and got bitter. I had an old-school headliner try to big-time me in La Jolla—I just featured, got paid headline, and kept it moving. That era did coke and didn’t write. I want the flow state.
Most people lose enthusiasm. It’s numbers—massive stage time. Attell did cab-hopping in New York—five, six sets a night. Drop-ins like Louis blow up your schedule. The hang mattered more than road paychecks. Going out solo sucked—and middle acts would step on your premises or straight-up steal. Big scenes kept you honest. Patrice would tell you if something was hack. Short-set comics repeat identities—‘one thing about being Mexican’—and then can’t fill 20 minutes with range.
I did seven sets in one night—panic inducing. I preferred city spots and the hang to money gigs. My friends roasted me for too many black-white jokes. I bombed in a two-thousand-seater at Temple with Jamaican jokes that killed in New York. Learned fast: build universal truths, not radius-dependent bits.
Other countries laugh differently; big rooms and slight language lag can break your flow. Today YouTube can send you worldwide—look at James McCann. Overseas festival culture writes a new hour yearly and retires it; often more one-man-show than American club stand-up. I like silly too—saying things I don’t believe because it’s funny. Phones in bags let us risk and refine. Patrice said bad and great jokes come from the same place. Rock’s ‘I love Black people’ took a year to work.
I want to step on that plank more—be a careful antagonist—and find that last gear. My first real kill felt like drugs. I hit the glow, watched myself from outside. Been chasing that passenger ride since. I record sets and cringe-listen because the best tag might be a throwaway I forgot.
You get that freedom by peaking like a fight camp—tons of reps for a stretch—then rest. Tension is the enemy. Always record; one stray line can unlock a bit. At the club we built structure—open mics, door comics who are real comics, osmosis from killers. Kill Tony is the biggest breakout in America—one minute can change your life. But bombing there is a soul crusher. Some maniacs do their first minute at Madison Square Garden. It is like fighting Mike Tyson your first day in gloves.
People fly in for one minute—if they do not get up or do mid, it hurts. I also love street and backyard fights. I’m a soccer snob—give me Premier League. Who’s that highlight-reel striker of a fighter—light-skinned, lanky, cop, rolling thunder kicks? I cannot find the name.
There are unknown world-beaters in LFA, PFL, One, and a swarm of Dagestani killers. But I cannot ID your guy from that puzzle. Walkout hugs are a possible goodbye; it is brutal watching friends lose. Shob took concussions sparring Shane Carwin, then in camps—there is no happy ending to a guy who gets slept a lot. Tyson folded dudes and changed their lives. Ali’s the masterclass: watch Cleveland Big Cat Williams for the pre-exile magic. Henry Cooper’s left hook nearly had him; there’s a glove-myth around the break. Angelo Dundee was a legendary corner. Hearns-Hagler round one is war. Ali lost nearly three prime years for refusing Vietnam; he came back older, heavier, more hittable—but he became the generation’s anti-war voice.
Ali was stand-up funny. The quotes still kill. People called him a traitor; later they realized he was right.
Vietnam was a tangle of interests—Gulf of Tonkin was fabricated. Afghanistan’s poppy fields fed the heroin trade; Geraldo literally filmed our guys guarding them. We funded Mujahideen against the Soviets—see Charlie Wilson’s War—and we are replaying proxy patterns in Ukraine over resources and NATO creep. Invading makes you the bad guy, but the fog of war always reveals a money angle later. Social media is chaotic but net good—more people see the game now.
I was duped on Iraq—wanted to stop WMDs. Black folks never fully trusted cops, feds, or pharma. Rambo 3 literally thanked Afghan fighters. Freeway Rick sold coke for the government and did not know it. Is there an equation proving peace makes more money than war?
War is the fast path for defense contractors. Markets jump when politicians promise more spending. Conspiracies that got you exiled now get debated—Watergate, Woodward’s intel background, mass surveillance exposed by Snowden. They even re-designated NASA for intel work. On aliens, the denial feels like its own proof. On food, raw milk tastes right; pasteurization strips enzymes. Meanwhile glyphosate stays legal and everywhere. Corporations exist to scale profit, then lawyer up and settle harm as a cost of doing business. In pharma especially, to make that kind of money, you have to do shenanigans. You gotta
How do they get people on board? Fear. Tell folks civilization ends without your fix, then buy the ads. I worry another attack is coming; it would remind people our actions abroad land here. Evil is real, and only truly good action counters it. We have proof the game is rigged: Smedley Butler’s War Is a Racket and the nineteen thirty three Business Plot, where elites tried to install him in a coup. Same tactics now, just buried under NGOs and media.
I learned from getting hustled—a brick-in-a-VCR box. That scam made me watch for the trick, but the Iraq war still got me. And nine-eleven hit different: I was in the World Trade Center the day before, admiring the ceiling. Next morning I wake up to a plane in the tower and think, we are under attack—what’s next?
When people get scared, they chase white hats and black hats and even flip ideologies overnight to prove they belong. It is why the culture war feels nuts.
People overcompensate—Long Island trying to be a borough, area-code snobbery, the “where you from” quiz. Cred games everywhere.
I never wanted to live in the Hollywood blast radius. I needed quiet, dogs, nature. I built hours on the road more than five-minute city sets. Momentum without reflection breeds bad decisions, so my instinct was: get away, think, then visit the madness.
I did short New York sets to get on TV, then the road. I even told Kevin Hart to chase another sitcom—thank God he ignored me and built on the road. Protect your platforms; that is freedom.
Studios tried to control my social media. I refused. They even kept Arsenio Hall’s when his show returned. Contracts get wild with “into perpetuity,” and Scientology’s Sea Org has a symbolic billion-year deal. Business has always preyed on young artists—ask Prince, Jared Leto, all of them.
Spotify beef is real—artists feel unpaid. If you skip labels, how do you get heard when “viral” can be artificial?
Both real and juiced virality exist. Labels can pump you, but they want slices of everything, even touring. Streaming killed record sales. The alternative: own it, post it, let podcasts and social lift you. We played Johnny Thunder’s I’m Alive and it blew up again—SPEAKER_02 briefly confirms year nineteen sixty nine and that he had a prior Billboard hit. Talent plus timing still needs luck.
That track is TV-movie gold. Some artists get one perfect moment. Early sixties were goofy; by sixty-nine it got wild. Pre-internet, misfits found tribes in comic shops and punk clubs while school trained worker drones.
College is great if it matches your calling. For comics, the switch flips and nothing else makes sense. Many lose to gray demons—depression, toxic relationships, distractions. Transmute pain into bits; Kinnison turned heartbreak into classics. Onstage is a battle—for control and to hit flow.
Bad dates and heartbreak are material, not curses. We joke about “civilians” because it feels like war—bomb, kill, die. Flow is the real fight.
Working out unlocks flow for me. Ten three-minute rounds on the bag and I exhale. Imagine five-minute MMA rounds with someone trying to end you. You must be all-in—or accept journeyman life. Money can still be real—Cowboy made strong checks; Sean Strickland says he saved about four million dollars—but the body expires. Comedy lets you get better forever; fighting does not.
Boxing shows the cost: Meldrick Taylor was beating Chavez, got stopped at the end, and was never the same. You see winners and losers at the airport, swollen and bandaged. Bernard Hopkins extended his career by smothering damage, then went out falling through the ropes. One moment can erase years of avoided punishment.
We are lucky our craft does not scramble our brains. And I am grateful for the ride with you, brother.
Same. I am bouncing back to L.A. for a writing job—velvet prison—but I am breaking out with more specials. New one’s on YouTube now, shot in La Jolla. Love you.
Love you too. That room is magic. Thanks, everybody.