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Colin Cowherd Podcast - KAT Outplaying Wemby, Knicks Are A GREAT Story, Knicks Are A BAD Matchup For The Spurs, RIP Stacey King

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PodcastThe Herd with Colin Cowherd
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Colin is joined by Jason Timpf, host of “Hoops Tonight”. They start with the city of Chicago losing the Bears to Hammond, Indiana as well as losing its bid to host World Cup games and the trend of states/cities competing with each other to host professional sports teams (3:30).  They move to the NBA Finals and whether Wemby’s thin frame has become a disadvantage when playing against the thicker, stronger Karl-Anthony Towns (6:00), why the expectations that Wemby be a finished product at 22 years old are unrealistic, and why Towns has grown and learned from past mistakes that cost his teams (10:15).  They argue that the Spurs have been making dumb mistakes you’d expect a young team to make, while the Knicks have been situationally excellent (17:30). They also discuss the confluence of events that have to come together in order for a non-star driven team like the Knicks to win the NBA title (25:30). They highlight that the Knicks have a special locker room chemistry that has led them to play for one another and exceed expectations (31:45). Jason breaks down why the Knicks have been able to break down the Spurs defense with ease, and why the Knicks are just a terrible matchup for the Spurs (37:00). Finally, they look back at the life and career of Bulls legend and broadcaster Stacey King who passed away at 59 (43:30). All lines provided by @hardrockbet (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #Volume  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Episode summary

I turned off the news. I don’t trust rage‑driven coverage that splits people.

If we get back to clear facts, we can cool down.

I caught some Stanley Cup, then started thinking about how franchises and cities bargain. With that in mind, to San Antonio: Wemby looks more Ralph Sampson than a bruiser, and Karl‑Anthony Towns has been the best player—does that surprise you?

Not really; mobile, physical bigs who beat him to spots give him trouble. He’s still producing, but New York has clogged his rolls, forced jumpers, and shown that a seven‑foot‑five frame with a high center of gravity needs scheme help in the paint and a dependable jumper.

We’re tough on twenty‑two‑year‑olds in basketball; this sport doesn’t build the same long runway football does. Let him grow and add a couple of reliable counters—maybe even a light baby hook—without expecting a finished product today.

I call it scar tissue; losing sticks to you and sands off bad habits. KAT used to blow games with mistakes, and now he’s tightened up, while the young Spurs are learning the hard way with late fouls and giveaways.

We’re in a situational excellence era, not dynasties. The Knicks fit that—scar tissue, smart tweaks, some matchup luck—against a gifted but green Spurs team.

They didn’t look elite all year, then caught fire with trust, spacing, and shot‑making. Assists surged and catch‑and‑shoot threes are falling over forty percent, which underlines how versatility, health, and the bracket matter as much as raw talent.

What hits me is maturity—three Villanova guys, a coach who listens, and players fueled by real life. Brunson’s become absurdly dependable, KAT’s playing with purpose, and this patchwork roster turned into a real family.

Mike Brown basically said this vibe is rare, and he’s right. The secret is the group, especially now that stars see constant doubles and the game tilts toward shared rhythm and drive‑and‑kick.

I’ve chased that feeling; when a group clicks, nothing beats it. These Knicks absorb runs and never crack—after game two I thought, you can’t break this team, even if San Antonio snags one.

I wouldn’t bury the Spurs; they stopped hard‑doubling Brunson, ran, and Wemby caught fire. But winning four of five with that Madison Square Garden crowd and this team’s resilience is a mountain.

There’s a reason guys crave that bond—you can see it all over this run. I had Spurs in six off their surge; what was your pick?

I flipped to Knicks in six after the film; even during San Antonio’s seventeen‑game heater, New York blew them out at MSG for the same matchup reasons we see now. KAT drags Wemby from the rim, they own the paint, and the Knicks can shape‑shift with Robinson, Bridges, Shamet, and McBride; sweep is possible, but five or six feels right.

Before we go, condolences to Stacey King—beloved Bulls voice with a giant heart, always kind when he joined us—gone far too soon. Did you ever meet him?

I didn’t get that chance. Absolute legend, and may he rest in peace.

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