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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Joe and Jada - Tamar Braxton on Fat Joe's APOLOGY for Toni-Birdman rumor, Cash Money Verzuz, reality TV

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Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by R&B royalty Tamar Braxton. Joe and Jada talk to the "Love and War" singer about growing up alongside her sister Toni in a superstar family, her much-discussed appearance supporting Birdman at the Cash Money vs. No Limit Verzuz battle, her new music film and EP 'Heartbreak Retrograde' available on YouTube, female singers like Kehlani and Summer Walker doing big things in the R&B game, and her popular appearances on reality television shows like 'Braxton Family Values,' 'Dancing with the Stars,' 'Celebrity Big Brother 2,' and 'RuPaul's Drag Race.' Joe also takes the time to apologize to Tamar for mistakenly spreading the false rumor of Toni and Birdman's divorce. 5:00 - Birdman's Verzuz & Joe apologizes for Toni Braxton rumor 9:30 - Why Tamar likes hood dudes 20:00 - Tamar's 5 favorite songs 39:00 - 'Bridezillas' & film work 45:30 - 'Heartbreak Retrograde' & Tamar plays "Love Me" for Joe & Jada 53:30 - Tamar's favorite Toni song 55:30 - Women are running R&B right now [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Episode summary

You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show, every episode feels iconic and today is family. Think great singing, real acting, reality roots, big sisters, bigger love, and good cooking energy—make some noise for Tamar Braxton.

You the baby of four sisters, the black sheep, most driven, right? And let me apologize for repeating that Birdman and Tony divorce rumor—I saw the verses energy, and I respected how you stood by your brother while he protected legacy.

I never meant to be in the middle; I showed up because he asked and Tony asked. Birdman is family, I introduced Tony and Brian, and that dating rumor about me is crazy—we don’t move like that.

So what’s your type—hood dude vibe, some money, real presence? I can’t stand the facade guys doing lame dances with no substance.

I like a man who can hold his own and wants to show me off, real razzle dazzle. I love to upgrade my man, but I want him to feel like he’s the one because he is, and I need respect in the room when we walk in.

Respect is everything, both ways. I watched a sister’s boyfriend feel small about her bag, and I told him it ain’t about the bill—find your place and do not play yourself.

Exactly—if she’s paid, she’s not counting your card. Be her protector, cheerleader, safe space, and emotional anchor; your role is more than money.

Cardi said it best—she wants to feel safe. I’ve been married forever, and I’d carry the purse for a billionaire queen with no ego about it.

Buying me things alone is corny. Emotional safety and support beat receipts every time.

You kept a real connection to the streets even with a famous family, which is rare. Give me your soundtrack—who you study and love.

Mariah Carey is my favorite. I love Tank, H.E.R., Brandy—the vocal bible—and Kim Burrell, and I need y’all to hear Dera Walls, his voice is an instrument.

I’m an R and B guy—gospel greats, legends, and a little Keith Sweat stage comedy never hurt either.

My new EP comes with a film, and it’s me taking accountability for cheating. It’s the female side of owning a bad decision and the fallout.

Was it a targeted move or a moment you slid back?

I spun the block with an ex because the new situation wasn’t settled and old feelings weren’t finished, which was wrong. Love Me Love Me admits I miss him and still know it is over; the film shows both sides and it’s up on my YouTube, with Vince even giving me dating advice.

We played it and it felt like a classic—throw the bag behind that record. The women in R and B are running the field right now.

I used to emasculate because I had the bag and felt like I could, and I cheated. I do not think that way anymore, and I will not do that again.

It takes a strong man to stand tall next to a powerhouse and still lead with care, and love makes even the hardest men forgive. Now talk business.

I’m independent and stacking TV and film—just started movies and I’m shooting a romantic comedy thriller with Tay Diggs.

Own your masters and your moves—I left majors and sold a million indie, so I salute you. Boss lady, that is how you do it.

Big love and big applause for Tamar Braxton—legendary energy.

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