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Folks, this is a big one: Forta Chat, from the people behind Bastyon, is built for private decentralized communication. I’m joined by Todd and Daniel Sachkov because, in a time when everything is getting watched, an anonymous system not welded to your email, name, or phone number matters a great deal.
Yeah, maybe someday every message I’ve ever sent won’t get dug up by somebody I never wanted reading it. That sounds pretty good to me. I set up an account, and it was very simple. Treat those seed words like crypto keys: write them down, don’t screenshot them, and don’t paste them onto surveillance devices.
Bastyon began with rules we don’t compromise on: open source, non-corporate, and anonymous. You cannot base speech rights on trusting whoever runs a company, because boards, investors, and pressure always arrive. Forta is timely because surveillance is the larger danger. These expanding data centers can ingest enormous data streams and make decisions about people and their children.
That is already visible overseas, and it is heading toward America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, all of it. Forta gives you a username and seed phrase rather than an identity trail: no email, number, or real name required. It is an alternative for people who don’t want private conversation turned into a permanent dossier.
Encryption happens on the sender’s device and decryption only on the recipient’s device. We keep no centrally held keys. Other messengers may encrypt data, but server-held keys create future risks. To compromise a million Forta users, somebody would have to compromise a million separate devices. That is not realistic at scale.
So is this fully decentralized, federated, or somewhere in between? And could it keep functioning if a region starts blocking traffic or disrupting the network?
We use Matrix-style federation as infrastructure, but rebuilt the encryption layer. Messages may be stored encrypted on federated servers; your keys are not. Soon desktop users can launch a small server for themselves and friends with a simple wizard. Android has censorship-circumvention layers, including Tor-based options and bridges. If the entire internet disappears, nothing online works, but we’re exploring MeshTastic radio relays for later.
Forta is not merely a Telegram clone with better privacy. We’re adding local AI assistants: compact specialists for survival, repairs, cars, and electronics. Download them while connected, then use them without internet. On a plane or during an outage, you still carry useful practical knowledge.
That hits a special interest of mine. People need a Noah’s ark of knowledge offline: food production, preservation, natural and emergency medicine, repair skills. I have a large cleaned data corpus and tens of thousands of how-to books, so Daniel and I may have something to discuss. Knowledge in your own hands cannot be casually censored.
We’ll tailor model size to the device. The interface should feel natural: your messages, groups, channels, and then an AI area where you choose from many assistants. Once downloaded, they are free to use as often as you want.
Forta also handles audio notes, documents, calls, and video calls. Calls use encrypted WebRTC paths directly between participants rather than passing through a central Bastyon call server. Android has a downloadable APK. iPhone users can use the browser version, but Apple has been difficult about approving privacy-preserving apps. My blunt answer: if privacy is the priority, ditch Apple.
Maybe Apple surprises us; we submitted it. But I would not count on it. The Android app is stable, and desktop versions for Windows, Mac, and Linux are close. Forta also includes an easy Pocketcoin transfer button, so people can send value without wrestling with addresses, hashes, or networks.
But I always come back to the practical question: how does somebody turn that into something they can spend? And what’s been harder—building this decentralized technology, or getting ordinary people to actually use it?
Convincing people, no contest. Pocketcoin can be exchanged conventionally, peer-to-peer, or spent through Barteron, where people trade for food, repairs, and services. But people keep choosing the convenient centralized route until it fails. The most expensive cheese is in a mousetrap: it looks cheap until you pay with everything. Decentralized networks endure when people participate before the emergency.
I think incentives change as centralized systems become more fragile or controlling. Imagine being blocked from buying groceries because of something you posted. Suddenly, finding a nearby farmer and paying through a parallel system stops sounding theoretical. Forta is free and stays lean through committed users, contributors, and supporters rather than giant corporate funding.
I’m human; I never pretend an individual cannot be pressured. That is why architecture matters. Make the system like butterflies—hard to hit with machine guns. I do not possess a central trove of user keys to surrender; the network runs across many nodes and countries, with more user-operated servers coming.
One feature I really wanted is already there: a one-to-many emergency broadcast channel. If you use the same Bastyon key in Forta, subscriptions carry over. My Health Ranger posts were already arriving in Daniel’s Forta feed. People can follow channels through severe filtering conditions, so long as some internet path remains.
Start at forta.chat, then get the Android APK through the official link. Desktop apps are coming shortly. The browser is fine to begin with, but installed apps handle notifications and network workarounds better. If you already use Bastyon or Brighteon, import your existing private key and subscriptions appear right away.
I installed it on a de-Googled Above Phone, and it worked seamlessly. The main point is simple: Forta gives people a free, anonymous, decentralized way to communicate, and the surveillance grid is not getting less aggressive. Privacy is not evidence that you’ve done something wrong; it is a fundamental right. Daniel built something people need. Forta, fortitude, a privacy attitude. Take care, everybody, and remember: you do not have to volunteer your entire private life to the establishment.