About this episode
Join Alex in the studio for an interview with Nelly Furtado. Nelly opens up about her recent, painful breakup and shares how she’s having more fun being single and dating than she ever did in her past. She also reminisces on what inspired her most iconic songs and gives her take on break up sex, the importance of confidence, and what she calls “flingationships.” Enjoy! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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What is up, daddy gang—your founding father Alex Cooper here. Today’s full-circle moment: my guest is a legend my own team stans, and I’m her stan too. Let’s jump in—when are you at your happiest?
I’m blissed out pushing my kids on the swings, and I’m equally alive on stage where I can be as weird and free as I want. Those two sides make me feel whole.
Can you blend in at the park, or do people clock you right away?
I’m a chameleon. I can go unnoticed if I want, especially with my kids, and other days I’m down to be social.
Caller Daddy question time. Dating Canadian men versus American men—what’s the vibe?
I love love, period. I’ve met great men from both places. My type has shifted in my forties—I’m single, dating on my terms, and I’m drawn to confident energy and people who come correct.
For my single listeners who want to enjoy the game, any mindset advice?
Be honest with yourself. If you want a relationship, own it. If you want fun and discovery, own that too.
You and Drake on I’m Like a Bird—how did that happen?
We go way back. He hit me at eleven at night to show up at one, and I was like, I’m not pulling up without glam. I love him, and he really put Toronto on the map in a new way.
Before the glam life, you cleaned rooms at a motel with your family. How did that shape you—and how did fame change how people treated you?
Ten summers at the Robin Hood Motel gave me work ethic for the grind. My family’s from the Azores, super working class, so there’s no room for acting bougie—my roots keep me grounded.
Your daughter told me she grew up pretty normal, then suddenly mom’s five-hour glam returns. She’s seeing it all in real time.
She literally called me a diva for missing an airport pickup because of hair. I told her, this is the job, babe.
You’ve spoken about magazines lightening your skin and changing your body. How did that land back then?
I wrote Powerless about those pressures. Early on it was a whirlwind—heavy retouching, weird beauty standards—so I brought my own clothes to shoots and questioned everything.
When did you feel the most confident?
Now. Time to journal, therapy, and self-work changed me. Even when comments polarize around my body, I feel solid—three kids, curves, and outfits that make me feel powerful.
Women always tell me confidence grows with the decades.
It does. I can laugh with love at younger me. I even had a fling with a twenty-three-year-old at thirty-seven—which shows how perspective keeps evolving. Music is my diary through it all.
Let’s talk classics. What sparked I’m Like a Bird?
I was lonely in LA finishing my debut, wrote three songs on a sofa, and the third was I’m Like a Bird. The one I thought was better was hilariously bad. Bird was about a relationship I knew I had to leave—I actually ended things on tour from a payphone.
When it comes to breakups, do you usually do the ending?
I’ve been on both sides. Being dumped hurts like hell, but the rock bottom can be a gift—you rebuild stronger. When confused, I revisit he’s just not that into you for clarity.
Maneater is such a mood. Who is she to you—and did anyone ever say your edgier records were too much?
Maneater channeled a friend’s knockout energy and the mix of masculine and feminine power. Promiscuous came from Timbaland’s chorus idea; I hesitated until Jim Beanz pushed me. Now it’s pure karaoke joy live.
How has your relationship with sexuality evolved?
I grew up on TLC, Salt-N-Pepa, and Mary—choice and agency. Feeling sexy starts with time alone and embodied joy, like dance. I love love, but I also love my solitude; ADHD made me default to passengers at times, so now I try not to lose myself.
Part of your return to music came during a painful breakup. What made it so hard, and how did you get out?
I thought I’d finally reached the yellow brick road—certainty, peace. Then I saw imbalance and abusive dynamics. Isolation and fear keep you stuck, but a few brutally loving friends held mirrors up until I had aha moments. Sometimes the ending isn’t your choice, but once it was over, I chose me. Your brain will flood you with the good memories—don’t feel shame. Healing takes time.
What’s a lesson about love you’ll tell your kids?
Be best friends. Choose partnership and a good heart, and stay you. Your gut is always right, and we all ignore red flags and gaslight ourselves sometimes—just try to listen sooner.
How did you get your confidence back post-breakup?
Movement, going out, dressing up, and the studio. I cried, raged, and wrote—ended up with about four hundred songs. My sessions became my social life. I pick tracks like a fashion collection and I love inviting unexpected people into the room to spark ideas.
Where do you stand on breakup sex—and are you single?
It’s natural for a while—squeeze the lemon until it’s dry, then stop. I’m single, happily dating in my flingationship era. Daytime first dates are great, and I’m strategic about inviting someone to a show—that’s a machete-level move.
Non-negotiables for a real partner?
Authentic self-work, spiritual growth, ego in check, and genuine kindness. Notice how he treats everyone. And listen to your friends—they want your happiness.
Were you nervous to come back after a break?
I eased in—popped up with Drake in Toronto, booked shows, then met Dom Dolla and we made a banger that hit festivals. I’m a better producer and collaborator now, more open-hearted, and I’m comfortable writing with the mic on in a room full of people.
What makes this new album special, and why should we stream it?
It’s packed with emotion and escapism, made with care. If you want to feel something real, it’s there. I’m already cooking the deluxe, and yes, my dream collab is still Drake—Canada lore.
We’re manifesting that Nelly Furtado x Drake record. Thank you for coming—this was a blast. You’re even better in person.