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Filippo Biondi, PhD is an engineer and signal processing researcher who was part of a team that discovered unusual signal patterns beneath Egypt’s Giza Pyramid complex using advanced radar imaging technology. www.harmonicsar.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Thanks for being here. There’s huge interest and pushback around your work, because if what you’ve found under the pyramids is right, we’re looking at something that could change our story of humanity.

I’m a telecom engineer who moved into space radar, working with a team led by Corrado Malanga. We adapted satellite synthetic aperture radar to capture surface vibrations and, using Doppler information, reconstruct what lies below without penetrating the ground.

So the classified work you did led to this satellite radio-tomography, and you pointed it at Giza. Was that deliberate or a lucky break?

Once the method worked, we teamed up and focused first on the Khufu pyramid to validate, then widened to the Giza Plateau. Phase one matched known internal features with accurate size and location, and a 2020 peer-reviewed paper reported those results.

When did the deeper images—the giant columns and those spiral patterns—show up?

In the second phase we tuned the algorithms to go deeper, and striking vertical structures with regular spiral patterns appeared. I was skeptical at first, but after more than two hundred scans with different satellites, including Capella Space, the results stayed consistent.

People say this tech is proven elsewhere. You used it on an underground particle facility?

Yes, we retrieved the dimensions of a deep installation in Italy from space with high precision. Space is quiet and stable for radar, which is why the measurements are so exact.

Despite that, there’s resistance from academic gatekeepers. Do you get why?

Maybe it’s simply too big to absorb quickly. We sat on the data for about a year, kept testing, then disclosed when the patterns held up.

Let’s talk what’s under there. You’re seeing shafts, coils, and massive chambers?

The tomography shows vertical structures with a repeating spiral signature and corridors linking them, plus huge chambers roughly eighty meters across. Our 3D models aren’t guesses; they visualize many coherent slices so people can read the data.

How deep are those shafts and how wide are the passages?

The shafts drop approximately six hundred meters to the chambers, and corridors are about three meters wide. The same pattern appears beneath all three pyramids and the Sphinx at uniform depths.

This shakes the tomb idea. Engineers like Christopher Dunn think the Great Pyramid behaved like a machine. Does your data fit that?

Inside we see a multilayer structure—what Mario Pincherle called the Z—that behaves like a stone low-pass filter for vibration. It appears to channel mechanical energy down to the granite box, which looks more like a resonance chamber for a living person than a coffin.

If someone lay in that box while the structure resonated, what might happen?

Outside strict science, I suspect a controlled out-of-body or altered-state experience triggered by focused vibration. Natural sources like flowing water, the Earth’s hum, and possibly radiation through shafts could drive the system.

Imagine stumbling on Disney World a thousand years later—you’d see a castle and mice everywhere and misread the whole thing. This could be an ancient ride for the mind powered by sound and energy.

What’s the plan to verify on site?

We’ve drafted an excavation proposal led by the University of Ferrara to clear debris-choked shafts and enter through natural access points, using robots and drones for safety and real-time video. We estimate around twenty million dollars to do it properly.

Who’s supporting this, and what else can the tech do?

Companies in mining, oil, and water have reached out, and we’re forming a foundation in Malta to fund philanthropic scans of ancient sites worldwide. The processing is heavy, but we will tackle places like Pumapunku and the labyrinth described by Herodotus.

Critics argue about patents and method limits. How do you answer that?

Our approach doesn’t try to punch through the ground; it reconstructs from surface entropy and Doppler shifts, and the benchmarks back it. I’m one hundred percent confident in the results, I filed a new U.S. patent, and I welcome independent replication.

There’s also history that hints at reuse. The Isis stela frames Khufu as a restorer, not the original builder, much like other cultures adopted older structures. If so, the orthodox timeline crumbles.

I notice practical clues: salt deposits inside and blocked shafts point to flooding and later infill. Placing the build between the legendary Zep Tepi and the end of the last great flood suggests an origin far older than standard dates, somewhere in that wide window.

If this holds up, those stones are just the tip of something vast. Let’s keep it a healthy debate, but it feels like the shafts are calling us to go see for ourselves.

I agree. The right next step is careful, open exploration so everyone can witness what’s really beneath Giza.

Can you pull up images of salt inside the pyramids? Flood stories show up everywhere, and seeing salt crusted on those stones makes a cataclysm feel less like myth.

I visited two months ago and saw salt on the walls myself. The shafts are unstable and full of debris, so I want robots inside, not people.

If salt lingered for eleven thousand years, a massive inundation could have filled those passages and left residue as waters receded. That also pushes construction far earlier than the standard timeline, maybe even eighteen to twenty thousand years, which dovetails with rainfall-erosion arguments around the Sphinx and earlier Nile climates.

This work could rewrite everything—date of construction, who built them, and how. It’s the moment to test and verify.

The hardest question is the “how.” Metals vanish, wood rots, but stone survives, and what we see is precision on a level we can’t explain.

The Grand Gallery in Cheops is insanely precise with massive, perfectly placed blocks. That level of alignment still floors me.

Did your fascination start young, or only recently?

I dove in around 2018. The pyramids feel tied to our origins, and we still don’t know who we are; answers may be waiting there.

If these achievements are older than we think, that’s huge. What else did you show in your presentation?

Visible entrances and shafts are neglected and filthy. Why aren’t we cleaning and exploring them?

Limited funds and a tourism-based economy slow things, but if discoveries accelerate, it could boost tourism and archaeology.

We can set safe work zones and keep the site open. Slides show objects inside a lower chamber—there’s clearly something there.

You’re saying the main shaft drops vertically, with side corridors about three meters high along the way and a large structure at the bottom, but no one’s sent a camera down yet?

The imagery shows human-made rings and deep-cut features with piles of debris. It’s unmistakably engineered.

For the skeptics, the Younger Dryas Impact folks point to iridium layers, nanodiamonds, and trinitite-like glass at the same depths worldwide. If flooding filled those shafts, it would explain the debris and salt.

Let’s chemically analyze the debris. If salt content is high, we could even estimate when seawater rushed in.

When they opened the Osiris Shaft, they found ice-cold water that seemed to refill and was clean enough to drink.

There’s also the labyrinth—massive underground halls mapped by ground-penetrating radar, flooded after a dam changed the water table, plus a forty meters long metallic object down there. Herodotus said that maze surpassed the pyramids themselves; if that’s right, we’re dealing with a civilization advanced in a different way than us.

Different direction, yes. The salt everywhere matches the idea of inundation, and the underground complexity raises the bar even higher.

If the whole complex extends about one point two kilometers down from the base, recreating that today would cost hundreds of billions and still strain our methods. They may have used technology unlike ours.

We invested in light, electronics, and combustion. They might’ve mastered sound—vibration, resonance, echo control—built into stone devices that feel purpose-designed.

So history isn’t a straight climb; it’s peaks and crashes. Maybe Egypt reached a high peak, then it all fell apart and we rebuilt much later.

Modern living must be sustainable, and I’m not convinced ours is.

We’re facing population decline in places and an information ecosystem packed with noise and control, yet we can freely explore ideas like never before. That’s the upside.

There’s a lesson from low-energy nuclear work with palladium splitting hydrogen into helium. Results were small, but the principle is about coherence instead of brute force. Hot fusion still struggles; ancient builders might have worked with nature—harmonic resonance—rather than against it.

In tune with nature instead of fighting it.

Geometry aligns with universal constants when you listen to the universe. It’s simpler than we think if we observe carefully.

Show us the new chambers.

Our first paper outlined the big void, and months later a corridor by the chevrons was confirmed. I cautioned that a supposed inclined chamber above the Grand Gallery might be a misread of its roof and floor; my method doesn’t show an inclined space there.

Either way, your technique keeps landing real targets in the twenty-first century. That’s wild.

Next targets include Sacsayhuamán in Peru—the “marshmallow” stones fit like a seismic puzzle—and potential lost structures near Gubbio.

Those polygonal blocks likely dampen earthquakes by locking in place. What about that site in Russia?

Karakora shows huge man-made shafts going two to three hundred meters deep with a large rectangle below. No one knows who built it or why.

It looks precisely built and ancient, yet it’s barely documented. There are probably many like it.

Satellites let us scan globally. You can task a payload and buy imagery to flag big anomalies, then use ground-penetrating radar for detail within about fifteen to twenty meters of depth.

Karakora content is mostly circulating on social media since about 2011, with uncertain locations and few formal papers, but the footage shows crisp, polished stone walls that look engineered.

Real or not, if that shaft exists, it’s an “I don’t know” moment for gatekeepers and another clue the past is stranger than we think. Like Göbekli Tepe, where only five percent is excavated.

My method excels at wide-area reconnaissance; ground-penetrating radar shines for in-situ resolution. Together they’re powerful.

You also validated the tech on modern infrastructure, right?

Yes. We “listened” to an Alpine massif and outlined a railway tunnel about two kilometers deep by reading vibrational response. At the Mosul Dam we mapped an internal tunnel and machinery, and at Gran Sasso we recovered the underground lab’s dimensions and the interferometer triangle. The results match reality.

This feels like the start of a wild journey. The debate will only draw more eyes, and every step makes the mystery bigger. It’s one of the most astounding lines of discovery I’ve seen. Thank you for the work, and shout to Graham—“a species with amnesia” is aging well as a thesis. Things just keep getting older. Where should people go to dig in?

Harmonicsar dot com. I post my updates there.

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