Richard Sherman Podcast - 2013 Legion of Boom vs. 2015 No Fly Zone: Richard Sherman & TJ Ward DEBATE Seahawks-Broncos defenses

We’re back all offseason, so hit subscribe and ride with us; today I’m fired up to welcome T.J. Ward—Day La Salle, Oregon, All‑Pro in Cleveland, a champ in Denver—let’s have some fun, brother.

Appreciate it, man; from college trash talk and Rainbow Six battles to this debate, we both lived on legendary defenses and we’re proud of what our secondaries stood for.

This whole thing kicked off when Skip and Aqib started stirring it, with Talib saying he’d be the best on either unit and that No Fly Zone topped Legion of Boom; I had to answer that.

Our style was press‑man, heat from everywhere, and two all‑time rushers in DeMarcus and Von; the pass rush and back end fed each other, and while your 2013 numbers beat ours, our offense turned it over a ton, which kept putting us back out there.

People act like we sat in soft zone, but on money downs we played man and got in your face; in that Super Bowl we studied Denver’s tempo and day‑one concepts, lined up fast, hit, and took the ball.

We weren’t just living in one call either; we mixed man, quarters, six, eight, and fire zones, communicated everything, and still dominated a stacked Carolina team with an MVP quarterback.

Simplicity can be a weapon when you’ve got high IQ dudes who know how to disguise, rotate, and steal throws; I had picks in man that year, our whole secondary ate, and in the NFC title game we survived early turnovers, got stops in the red zone, and closed it with clutch takeaways.

Von’s playoff run was special, and both units showed up when the stakes were highest; our yards‑per‑play edge was razor thin, but the bigger truth is we each kept winning with defense.

Scheme‑wise, my favorite years were Ray Horton and Wade; early Cleveland had me playing like an extra backer, and in Denver I didn’t love that three‑over‑two tight end rule because it left me chasing across the field.

Breaking news hit mid‑show—Trent McDuffie to the Rams for a haul—and it feels like L.A. paid heavy while Kansas City stocked picks, maybe retooling and freeing money to keep core pieces like Chris Jones.

I think the Chiefs won it; McDuffie’s a quality player but more nickel to me, not a turnover guy lately, and Andy Reid loves drafting and developing while saving cash to keep Chris Jones.

They don’t win those rings without Jones at his peak; pass rush changes everything, and you see it across the AFC with teams doubling down on edges and interior pressure.

This draft is deep in rushers and long corners, so I’m curious if the Rams park McDuffie inside, ask him to shadow, or plug him straight in at CB1.

Shadowing a number one is situational; if the target share isn’t there, you’re tilting your defense for nothing, so you’ve got to pick your spots.

There are value corners out there too, and the Rams live in win‑now mode anyway—they’ve dealt first‑rounders for years because McVay’s chasing trophies with Stafford.

All love to your group—we’re competitive and proud, but real ones respect great defense wherever it shows up.

Y’all decide it—No Fly Zone or Legion of Boom—drop it in the comments and catch Safety First and the Richard Sherman show everywhere.

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