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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

4th and South - Jarvis Landry & Leonard Fournette REACT to NFL free agency & DEBATE Dolphins downfall | 4th & South

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NFL superstars and LSU legends Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette sit down for an honest, unflinching conversation about the latest headlines shaking up the NFL. Lenny and Juice react to Raheem Mostert's comments on former Miami Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel, discuss the Atlanta Falcons new QB battle between Tua Tagovailoa and Michael Penix Jr., and break down the chaos in Minnesota as Kyler Murray heads to the Minnesota Vikings to compete with third year quarterback J.J. McCarthy. The duo also reflect on Odell Beckham Jr.'s time with the LSU Tigers and make their Final Four predictions for March Madness. All lines provided by ⁨ @hardrockbet  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We’re back, baby—fresh fits on, jersey vibes locked in after that San Francisco talk last week.

Raheem Mostert said Miami needed a tougher voice—was that what sank the Dolphins?

Year one the chill vibe worked, but once losing hit, that looseness hurt the standard; pros have to check pros, and I was raised on hard coaching so I never waited on a coach to toughen me up.

Culture is player-led—coaches set the room, leaders enforce it, and the best locker rooms don’t need yelling to demand pride.

I’ll do my job no matter the coach’s style and hold teammates to it, and Bruce Arians showing me blunt truth in Tampa stung but made me better.

I love that Tomlin balance—standards plus freedom—because riding young guys nonstop kills confidence fast.

Give the details, then let us play, and let position coaches coach without the head man micromanaging every snap.

Can you take coaching from someone who didn’t play, because I’ve seen stars push back on that.

I respect both paths, but ex-players like Adam Henry bring on‑field feel and situational nuance; either way I keep the same prep and constant QB communication to find easy money.

Shout to the position coaches who played—they understood me on and off the field.

Switching gears: two lefty quarterbacks in Atlanta—can that really work?

I’m skeptical because building around a lefty flips protections and rhythm, and history hasn’t shown many lefty-led champions—prove me wrong, but I don’t see it soon.

In that division, Carolina and Tampa feel stronger, so the handedness isn’t moving Atlanta over the hump for me.

Kyler to Minnesota—does he beat out JJ and fit an under‑center offense?

Kyler likely wins QB1, and they should lean more gun and movement while he builds a real groove with Jefferson and Addison.

Like Brady trimming a playbook in Tampa, if Kyler’s your guy you tailor calls to what he executes best.

Great year for JJ to learn behind him and still practice like the starter every day.

Maxx Crosby’s trade got pulled—how you think he feels going back to the Raiders?

Salute to six years sober and that nonstop motor; Baltimore’s handling felt messy, and I hope Vegas pays him so he can run it back.

It reshapes the Raiders’ picks and cap math, but Maxx can still ignite a run if that place finally stabilizes.

Geno Smith back to the Jets—does that move the needle?

Winning in cold New York is tough, but I hope Geno steadies that ship.

Older, wiser Geno is an upgrade with young juice outside and a real defense, and they can press Buffalo more than last year.

Justin Fields to Kansas City on a one‑year—can he hold it down if Pat’s banged up?

He’s perfect insurance while Mahomes heals, and Andy Reid will simplify and let the weapons carry drives.

I lived the Chad Henne playoff switch—Reid adapts fast, gets the ball out quicker, and backups win in that system.

Shout to the early inspirations—Cody Paul and then Tavon Austin had tapes that lit a fire under me.

LSU iron sharpened iron—Odell and Tyrann pushed each other into monsters—and I borrowed pieces from Reggie Bush and T.O. to shape my game.

I’m riding with St. Mary’s and Nova, not Gonzaga or BYU, and I’d keep the bet small—just a light sprinkle.

Alright, locks aside, on a personal level, who built your foundation—who helped shape you as a man, a father, and a brother?

Family was the base, but my coaches and community carried me; my high school coach used to drive out of his way to pick me up, get me to practice, and bring me home. People like you are in my story too—when I was fighting really dark thoughts, your friendship showed up and mattered.

My mom believed before I did; she sat with me for hours to work through a stutter and kept saying I’d speak to thousands, and now it’s coming true. I still grieve my cousin Chastile, who died of heart failure, and I’m learning to live with it while letting my kids feel their feelings, because where we’re from toughness kept you alive, but it shouldn’t erase tears.

My dad’s my hero—after being shot multiple times, he still showed up at my playoff game with fresh stitches, and he’s coached me my whole life. So when I slid from RB1 to RB2 and was spiraling, you came through, reminded me who I am, and it steadied me; money can’t fix everything, and I’m guarding my soul above all.

How have those trials shaped you as a friend, father, and businessman—what’s the main lesson you carry?

I put God at the center of every choice, including how I build my kids’ confidence; my son is shy, so I nudge him while letting him be himself.

I grew up in a praying house, football gave me discipline, and when I keep second-guessing something, I take it as a sign to let it go; some people are for a reason or a season, and that’s okay, even though I love hard.

For the first in our families to make it, we’re breaking cycles, and the way to keep them broken is to keep God in everything. It’s an honor to share space with you and talk life beyond football and fashion—until next time, we’re out.

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