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Adam Mosseri is the Head of Instagram, where he oversees an app used by over 3 billion people. He also leads the team building Threads. Adam has run Instagram for longer than its founders did, after taking over from Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger in 2018. A designer by training, he spent over 15 years at Meta, starting as a designer on Facebook’s mobile app, rising to lead Facebook’s News Feed, and eventually chosen to lead Instagram. During his tenure, Instagram’s user base has more than tripled. In our in-depth conversation, we discuss: 1. How the canonical product team structure is changing in 2026, from baker’s-dozen specialist teams to lean pods of four to six generalists 2. The rise of the “product staff” role—a blending of PM, design, data science, and research into one generalist operator 3. Why Adam is bullish on designers even as functional boundaries dissolve, and which roles are most at risk 4. What the Instagram algorithm knows about you, and why it’s only now catching up to what people assumed it knew years ago 5. Why the rise of AI-generated content is a tailwind for Instagram, and how the company is thinking about creator identity in a synthetic-content world 6. The two biggest product failures of Adam’s career—Facebook Home and the first version of Reels — Brought to you by: WorkOS —Make your app enterprise-ready, with SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more: https://workos.com/lenny Mercury —Radically different banking, now with Command: https://mercury.com/command?utm_source=lennys&utm_medium=sponsored_newsletter&utm_campaign=26q3_brand_campaign — Episode transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/adam-mosseri-ai-is-a-tailwind-for — Archive of all Lenny's Podcast transcripts: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/yxi4s2w998p1gvtpu4193/AMdNPR8AOw0lMklwtnC0TrQ?rlkey=j06x0nipoti519e0xgm23zsn9&st=ahz0fj11&dl=0 — Where to find Adam Mosseri: • X: https://x.com/mosseri • LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mosseri • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mosseri — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ — In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Introduction to Adam Mosseri (02:09) How product teams are changing inside Meta (05:48) Blurring roles and career anxiety (14:01) Hiring traits that matter now (16:48) How AI is resetting who succeeds at work (19:38) How Meta thinks about token spend and AI costs (23:23) Where human judgment still matters (25:56) Why AI is not automatically great at strategy (30:36) Why great product leaders are curators (34:23) What Instagram’s algorithm actually knows about you (38:08) Why chronological feeds often disappoint users (40:56) Why AI content may be a tailwind for Instagram (43:42) The future of AI and human content in the feed (48:00) What Adam admires about other social platforms (52:05) How he handles public criticism (56:31) Lessons from the Instagram feed redesign backlash (01:00:21) Adam’s biggest failure: Instagram on iPad (01:03:03) His approach to kids, screens, and social media (01:06:56) What Adam wants listeners to remember — Referenced: • What happens after coding is solved? | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-the-most-ai-pilled-engineering • Claude Code: https://www.anthropic.com/product/claude-code • Claude Cowork: https://www.anthropic.com/product/claude-cowork • Head of Claude Code: What happens after coding is solved | Boris Cherny: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/head-of-claude-code-what-happens • A rational conversation on where AI is actually going | Benedict Evans: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/a-rational-conversation-on-where • OpenAI’s CPO on how AI changes must-have skills, moats, coding, startup playbooks, more | Kevin Weil (CPO at OpenAI, ex-Instagram, Twitter): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/kevin-weil-open-ai • Mythos: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/mythos • Fable: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/fable • Pluralistic: The Reverse-Centaur’s Guide to Criticizing AI: https://pluralistic.net/2025/12/05/pop-that-bubble • Plastic Dream Sequence on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/plasticdreamsequence • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com • Facebook–Cambridge Analytica data scandal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge_Analytica_data_scandal • Facebook Home: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_Home — Production and marketing by https://penname.co/ . For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected] . — Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. To hear more, visit www.lennysnewsletter.com
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Episode summary
Taste matters a ton; in a world where building is easy, the scarce skill is choosing what to build and knowing where AI helps and where it does not.
Today’s guest is Adam Mosseri, head of Instagram—used by over three billion people monthly—previously behind Facebook’s News Feed and ranking, now the public face of Instagram’s biggest shifts and debates; Adam, welcome.
Our product teams moved from big, specialist-heavy groups to small pods of six or seven, anchored by generalist engineers and a product-staff role that blends PM, design, research, and data, with senior specialists pulled in only when the work truly needs them; fewer handoffs, faster decisions.
Tools now automate a lot of mechanical data science, like funnel and drop-off analysis, so a product-staff can self-serve insights that used to require bespoke help.
Designers with real taste will thrive; many are crossing into product-staff because functional lines are blurring, while standout experts in areas like ML still matter deeply.
There’s anxiety everywhere, but functions won’t vanish—they’ll skew smaller, more senior, and more fluid; keep growing junior talent into future seniors, and avoid overconfidence in any forecast right now.
Across hiring, the constants still win: drive, fast learning, and self-awareness; what’s rising is curiosity and a willingness to ship, get corrected, and try again, while giant-org operators will be less in demand as teams shrink.
AI is reshaping who shines; coding is now steering models, and cross-functional walls are falling—designers code, engineers analyze, data scientists mock up flows—so people who know where AI is strong or weak, and can see near-term trajectories, will get outsized leverage.
On model costs, we killed obvious token bonfires and watch ROI; no hard caps yet, but I can imagine per-team or per-person budgets if compute burn rivals salary, even as competition should push prices down over time.
As AI eats more of the build cycle, human advantage concentrates in taste, judgment, and strategy—setting goals and constraints, calibrating autonomy, and giving crisp feedback without smothering creativity.
AI can aid strategy if you tightly bound the brief—technology realities, team talent, competitive and regulatory context, and brand—then have a back-and-forth with a model that pushes back.
Keep the human-on-top ‘centaur’ pattern; if AI dictates strategy and people just execute, motivation and quality will crater.
The best product leaders are curators of people, ideas, and paths; I care less where a strategy originates and more that it’s sharp, owned, and executed, with a leadership team whose skills and chemistry truly complement each other.
A common myth about Instagram’s ranking is that it semantically knows you in detail; most gains came from embeddings—opaque vectors—not tidy labels, though LLMs now help describe those regions and give people more agency.
We launched a ‘your algorithm’ view that surfaces inferred interests from your interaction map and lets you adjust them, with a future where you can steer for things like more friends or more fun, not just topics.
Pure chronological feeds sound fair but skew incentives toward high-volume posters and publishers; recency matters, yet relevance often matters more for long-term satisfaction, so the job is balancing agency with a system that serves the whole community.
AI content is a tailwind and a challenge; in a flood of synthetic media, people will seek distinct points of view, so we invest in creators broadly and judge work by merit and voice, not by the tools used to make it.
We’ll label AI where we can and may also label camera-captured content as a durable signal; at the account level, disclosure helps fight spammy AI personas pushing scams.
I admire TikTok’s exploration-heavy ranking that can surface new talent; we’ve been pushing exploration, originality, and recency so more fresh creators can break out, and we’re closing the gap.
I show up publicly because the debate will happen anyway; better to explain trade-offs and decisions, accept fair and unfair hits, and make the process more understandable over time.
On the ‘full-screen video feed’ uproar, several things got conflated: a small iOS test, a bigger push into Reels, more recommendations, and creator reach concerns; we likely moved too fast, but I’d rather take periodic backlash than stagnate.
At our scale, you must test, and tests will leak, so we pre-plan calm comms for controversial experiments, especially pricing or major UI changes.
Fail corner: Facebook Home was a spectacular miss that taught me operating-system realities and when to end a project; at Instagram, our first Reels built into Stories was the wrong foundation—had we shipped the standalone version a year earlier, TikTok might look different today.
With my kids, it’s boundaries and literacy: they earn weekend iPad time, we approve apps, flights are exceptions, and we’re learning to build with AI together so they grow critical thinking and modern tool fluency.
Adam, thank you—authentic, thoughtful, and generous with the real trade-offs behind the product we all use.
My ask: remember this work lives in gray areas with real trade-offs, and while you may disagree, we’re people doing our best—keep the critique coming.
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