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The Mel Robbins Podcast

#1 Mindset Expert: Simple Mindset Shifts That Transform Your Body, Energy, & Life

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PodcastThe Mel Robbins Podcast
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Today, you are going to learn scientifically proven ways you can use your mind to upgrade your life, starting with your body, your energy, and your confidence. In this episode, Stanford professor and leading psychology and mindset researcher Dr. Alia Crum reveals the science behind how your thoughts shape your body, your energy, and your health. She’s proven over and over again that your thoughts about exercise, stress, and food are working against you – and how you can change them. She’ll explain that this isn't just about thoughts, but that you have settings in your mind that you need to change. This is not positive thinking. This is repeatable, evidence-based science behind mindset, motivation, and physical change. You’ll learn: -The one mindset shift that makes healthy habits feel easier instead of exhausting -The groundbreaking studies proving your beliefs can change your biology -How to make workouts easier so you get fitter, faster -How the “settings in your mind” influence your metabolism, hunger, stress, and recovery -How to make healthy eating easier so you feel your best every day -How to stop fighting your body and start working with it -How to feel more energized, capable, and consistent without forcing yourself -How to overcome your worst fears so you don’t let anything hold you back If you are tired of criticizing yourself, tired of your fears and anxiety, and tired of never seeing the results you deserve, Dr. Crum is going to teach you, step by step, exactly how to change the settings in your mind to achieve anything you want. Once you hear this, you’ll start noticing shifts in places you never expected. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page. As a gift to listeners of The Mel Robbins Podcast, Mel has created a free 20-page workbook to help you make 2026 a great year. This workbook is designed using the latest research to help you get clear about what you want and empower you to take the next step forward in your life. And the cool part? It takes less than a minute for you to get your hands on it. Just sign up at melrobbins.com/bestyear . If you liked the episode, check out this one next: How to Create a Successful Mindset: The Science of Passion and Perseverance Connect with Mel: Get Mel’s newsletter, packed with tools, coaching, and inspiration. Get Mel’s #1 bestselling book, The Let Them Theory Get on the waitlist for Pure Genius Watch the episodes on YouTube Follow Mel on Instagram The Mel Robbins Podcast Instagram Mel's TikTok Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes ad-free Disclaimer Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Episode summary

Hey, it’s Mel, and today we’re diving into science-backed ways to use your mind to make workouts easier, healthy eating simpler, and fear less powerful, with Stanford’s Dr. Alia Crum in the studio.

My work looks at the real power of beliefs, not vague positivity, but the specific mindsets that shape how we feel, behave, and even how our bodies respond, and how to adopt the ones that help.

Let’s get precise: what is a mindset, and how is it different from just having a good attitude?

Think of mindsets as the mind’s settings—core frames that orient your experience—like whether the world feels safe or dangerous, resources feel abundant or scarce, abilities feel fixed or growable, and in health whether stress harms or can help, whether healthy food is punishment or pleasure, and whether a diagnosis is catastrophe or something you can manage.

These settings aren’t right or wrong; they’re simplified lenses that guide what you notice, how you feel, what you do, and they can shift physiology too.

Walk us through your milkshake study, because it’s the perfect proof that mental settings can change the body.

We had people drink the same three-hundred-fifty calorie vanilla shake twice while measuring ghrelin, the hunger hormone, but one time it was labeled indulgent with high calories and the other time sensible with low calories.

Believing it was indulgent led to a ghrelin drop about three times larger than believing it was light, meaning the body acted as if it had received more even though the shake was identical.

So the body is reading the mind’s setting, not just the calories, which means we can set our minds on purpose.

Our producer beat a decade of flight anxiety by telling herself, this is just an old setting—what’s happening there?

A past experience likely linked flying to scary bodily sensations, so her belief trained attention onto every flutter, amped up fear, drove avoidance or numbing, and recreated the symptoms she dreaded; noticing the setting as outdated loosened its grip.

To make it concrete, that kind of setting steers attention to threat, heightens anxious feelings, kills motivation to fly, and triggers the body, and you can change it without replaying every origin story.

Sometimes the core setting is not about planes but about not trusting your body, which then colors what you notice, how you feel, what you do, and how your physiology behaves in a tight loop.

We all have versions of this—beliefs like it’s too late or nothing works for me—so let’s talk about shaping settings that help.

Have compassion; our settings are sculpted by culture and upbringing, and while we’re not to blame for them, we can choose to flip the switch.

When do these settings start to form?

From the moment we’re born the brain simplifies reality into rules it can use, updates them when it must, and keeps searching for confirming evidence.

Most settings came from the outside, and you’re showing us how to set them from the inside so they work for us.

Exactly, we can consciously set them.

Let’s hit the placebo effect: what is it really, and how do we use it without fooling ourselves?

In trials, people improve on placebos, and the changes show up in the brain and body—belief can release natural painkillers, activate dopamine systems, and shift immune responses, and those beliefs are cued by context like words, labels, and rituals.

The practical takeaway is mind and matter work together; the total effect of a pill or plan is what’s inside plus what you believe about it.

In a migraine study, the real drug labeled real worked best, the real drug labeled placebo worked less, and a placebo labeled real worked about as well as the mis-labeled real drug, and even an openly labeled placebo beat doing nothing.

So belief doesn’t replace treatment, it boosts it, and it also makes healthy habits easier.

With cancer, useful settings aren’t denial or forced cheer but this is manageable and my body is capable, which in our studies improved daily functioning and lowered symptoms during chemo; we’re testing biological markers now.

Bring this to food and fitness, because sticking with both is where people struggle.

My own struggle with dieting and a Cheesecake Factory dessert dilemma sparked the milkshake study, and what I learned was that eating with a mindset of indulgence—allowing yourself to enjoy—leads to a more satiating physiological response than eating with restraint.

Indulgence here means truly savoring what you choose, whether it’s greens or dessert, not a license to binge, but a setting that helps your body register enough.

Name your old and new settings around food so we can model the shift.

I moved from rule-following and deprivation to prioritizing the mindset I bring to a meal, asking what it would take to enjoy it and feel satisfied.

Okay, I’m holding a head of iceberg—how should we set our minds around healthy food?

Many of us learned that healthy equals bland while marketing sold indulgence as fast food, so make nutritious food genuinely appealing and talk about it that way, even for kids, like serving a vegetable juice in a fancy glass.

As you described a salad indulgently, I started craving it, which shows the body follows the frame.

Exactly, the mind cues the body to prepare for what you expect.

Now I’m picking up a heavy weight and my first thought is I’m weak and behind.

That snap-setting can spiral when you miss workouts, so pair the behavior with a useful setting like I’m capable and I’m doing enough to pull attention, emotion, action, and body back into alignment.

Saying I’m capable actually made the weight feel more doable.

Studies suggest perceived effort can shift with mindset, and we’re learning more about that.

Last props: a giant slice of chocolate cake and a few dollar bills—let’s talk cravings and money.

Indulgent language around cake is learned, and reframing it as stale or highly processed makes it less tempting, while suppression backfires due to the white bear effect, so choose your lens and eat when it truly fits your intention.

Money often runs on a scarcity setting or one of enough and possibility, and that belief can shape choices that either shrink or expand what’s available, though it’s really your broader settings about self, health, and life that drive outcomes.

If someone wants to start today, what’s the simplest move?

Begin where you are, name the problem or goal, then pick a helpful setting to bring to it, like stress can support me here, I’m going to enjoy what I eat, or this health challenge is manageable and my body is capable.

Your research makes this feel doable and grounded, and I’m using it; what do you want to leave us with?

We’re just scratching the surface, so share what works and what doesn’t so we can study what matters, and remember you can’t control everything, but you can reset your mind.

Thank you for the work, the trip to Boston, and the clarity; share this with someone who needs it, and know I appreciate you for being here and for taking this seriously, and I’ll be right here when you hit play next time.

This show is for education and entertainment, not a substitute for professional care, and I’ll see you in the next episode.

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