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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

4th & South - Deion ATTACKS NFL for UNFAIR Shedeur Sanders Treatment & Chiefs Rashee Rice ARREST

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PodcastThe Herd with Colin Cowherd
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Former NFL stars Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette have a raw, unfiltered conversation breaking down Deion Sanders' comments defending his son Shedeur, arguing why he was UNFAIRLY TREATED by the NFL and Cleveland Browns during his rookie season. Fournette and Landry also discuss Rashee Rice's SHOCKING arrest and whether he will EVER play for the Kansas City Chiefs again. Fournette also gets BRUTALLY honest about why Jay Gruden SUCKS as a coach during his time with the Jacksonville Jaguars and EXPOSES how coaches often let players they didn't draft go to PROVE A POINT. Landry and Fournette also dive into Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver AJ Brown's wedding with Jalen Hurts and get real about Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott's relationship drama where things get complicated with his ex-fiancée's best friend. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Day, another dollar—kids stole my shades off the desk and now I’m getting Kardashian jokes. Let me throw these on and set the vibe.

Banter aside, we’ve got a full plate—Deion riding for his son, whispers around Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown, the Cardinals getting no love, and some locker room drama to unpack. Let’s roll.

Deion said when Shedeur takes his shirt off you see the scars—he’s been through it. Is that a dad protecting his kid or just the truth?

Both. That’s exactly how a father should show up, especially after the draft noise about headsets and being unprepared; we know that wasn’t him.

The media’s cooked the Sanders family from jump, and he still handled every messy question like a QB1—calm, prepped, and never throwing coaches or teammates under the bus; fifth or sixth round was disrespectful.

Do you worry the spotlight dents his confidence? One bad practice throw and it’s a headline.

I’ve been there—first game speed humbled me and the ‘bust’ talk made me want to transfer, but you can’t let outside noise change who you are; his confidence is his edge, so keep the swagger and keep working.

Year two jump or nah?

He can, but Deshaun’s likely starting; that’s a real obstacle and a test of his patience, body language, and leadership.

Honestly, sitting could be perfect if Cleveland’s QB development is finally real; I saw college tape where his feet and timing needed polish, not fifth-round punishment—practice like you’re the starter, steal reps with your guys, and he could end up the most famous Sanders ever because of the position.

They took a handful of QBs before him I wouldn’t have—watching that TCU game made it click for me that he’s different.

And some folks hear SEC and tune out everything else; that bias is real.

Do bad coaches ruin good players? Yes. I had a staff ‘inherit’ me, told me I was their guy, then I learned later they never wanted me; they tried to replace me with their picks and it still didn’t work.

That’s the league—new regimes want their own players; teams draft you on potential, but the team that signs you later needs you and shows it.

I became a rebuild casualty while the roster got stripped after an AFC title run; at least be straight with players and give them a real shot.

Rashee Rice keeps tripping up—probation violation, missing OTAs—who’s in your circle, bro? Stick by Mahomes and Kelce, cut the yes-men, and value the one percent chance you earned.

Facts. I challenge the Chiefs’ leaders to wrap their arms around him, and he has to meet them with accountability and pride in his legacy.

Hit me direct when you’re out—I’ll give you the big-brother talk you need.

Trevon hinted that his brother Stefon could land in Washington; him with Terry and Jayden would be a problem, and I’d pencil them into the division race.

That hometown fit in the DMV is special; I’ve seen his passion up close, and in the NFC East that energy plays.

There’s nothing like playing near family—weekly love, home-cooked meals, and a whole city behind you.

Relationship question: if a wedding’s called off, are you popping out with your ex’s best friend?

If it stalled on a prenup after long talks, I’m canceling everything; I worked for this, and refusing a fair prenup feels disrespectful.

Plenty agree with you, plenty don’t; roles reversed, money or not, it gets complicated fast.

Some love is transactional, and fame invites traps; young players need real guidance on who they date and what that lifestyle brings.

All speculation aside, none of this is confirmed—we’re just reacting to what’s out there.

Jalen Hurts skipped AJ Brown’s wedding—should fans read into it?

He had a gala booked; those aren’t last-minute—season will tell you where that bond is.

Lenny’s Locks: the Cardinals are pegged under four and a half wins; you buying that?

I’m on the over—five to six wins with that rookie running back’s punch and James Conner helping in tough spots.

I’m with you—run game has to carry them, and that rookie could chase an all-time debut season if the volume’s there.

Wild full-circle moment for me: a USC recruiter once promised he’d coach me someday, and by my last year at LSU he did; speak it, work it, and it comes around—great look for LSU.

I’m fired up too, especially with the portal and NIL now above board; two elite recruiters in Baton Rouge who know Louisiana means we’ll keep stacking talent, and the program’s clearly aiming for the best across players, coaches, and recruiters.

Shout to Jeff Martin leading NIL recruiting, and I’m pulling up for the Clemson game; my favorite LSU memory is Victory Hill, stepping off the bus to family and fans and that seven jersey energy.

Night games in Death Valley are unmatched—it’s an all-day wave of tailgates, then that sprint to the student section and pure electricity.

Brady walking for Gucci—did you see that, and have you talked to him?

I did, and he’s checking off bucket-list stuff; he looked smooth on the runway in full leather, though I’m not sold on the haircut.

I never pictured him in high fashion, more basics and commercials, so that was a surprise.

With Gisele’s fashion world ties, it tracks, and yeah, I think Gucci will lace him for life; I’m building my own portfolio to hit shows too—think Pharrell’s Louis Vuitton, ERD, and Amiri.

How’s life and the kids—what’s the summer vibe?

School’s out, we’re doing Six Flags, and I’m the dad on snack duty because those rides give me Final Destination thoughts.

Same here, I’m off the coasters, and if a screw ever flew and we walked away, I’d be lawyering up top to bottom.

My son’s turning ten, so training’s leveling up—hills, habits, the real blueprint—and I’ll compete with him while I still can so he’s sharp by the time he’s a teen.

We’re taking a summer trip to grind outdoors, waking up at 4:30 for workouts; not the military, just building systems and discipline.

Let them still be kids, but we move together—one band, one sound.

Early sweat makes the whole day easier, and you can sneak in the work by jogging to the park and turning it into play.

Pray for safe family trips, much love to everyone tuned in, and big congrats to all the graduates—parents, y’all did that, we appreciate you.

Same here—shouting out my godchild and cousin on graduating, love to the folks back home.

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