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This One Episode Will Change How You Think About the World & Your Life (From #1 Cancer Surgeon)

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PodcastThe Mel Robbins Podcast
Publisher/creatorSiriusXM Podcasts
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Today’s episode will change how you think about your entire life. Because today you’re meeting a top cancer surgeon who’s going to help you think about one of life’s big questions - the kind you don’t usually ask yourself because you’re just too busy: What really matters in life? Maybe you’ve been feeling off. Like you’re doing a lot… but you’re not sure it’s the right stuff. Maybe you’re craving clarity… what to focus on and what to stop wasting your time on. Well that’s the kind of guidance you’re getting today. In this powerful conversation Mel is sitting down with Dr. Rahul Jandial, MD, PhD - a world-renowned cancer neurosurgeon and neuroscientist - who has treated and operated on more than 15,000 stage 4 cancer patients at the end of their lives. So in this conversation, you’ll hear what becomes clear when time is running out: - What people wish they’d done sooner - What they wish they’d stopped caring about - What matters - and what never mattered at all - And the number one regret he hears from his patients again and again You’ll also learn why so many of us wait until it’s almost too late to start living the life we want… and how to change that - starting today. Dr. Jandial is the Medical Director of Neurosurgical Oncology and Skull Base Surgery at City of Hope in Los Angeles, one of the leading cancer centers in the world. He operates on brain cancers and spinal tumors in both adults and children, and directs a research lab focused on developing cutting-edge neuroscience and cancer treatments. Dr. Jandial has also lived through unbelievable twists and turns - from college dropout, to security guard, to becoming one of the most respected surgeons in the world - and today he shares what reinventing his life taught him about going after more and trusting yourself. In this episode, he will teach you how to find your footing again and build the kind of strength that will get you through any setback. What Dr. Jandial reveals in this episode is something he’s never shared on any podcast. In this episode, you’ll learn: - A simple daily practice that helps you remain steady, no matter what’s happening - How to handle bad news without spiraling or panicking - What to do first when you’re overwhelmed and don’t know what to focus on - How to bet on yourself even when other people don’t understand it - How to stop waiting for “someday” and start showing up more fully right now This conversation will shift your mindset so you stop waiting for ‘someday’ and start showing up more fully right now. Because once you hear it, you’ll see your life and the world differently. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page. If you liked the episode, check out this one next with Dave Evans and Bill Burnett: How to Design Your Life in 1 Hour Connect with Mel: Order Mel’s new product, Pure Genius Protein Get Mel’s newsletter, packed with tools, coaching, and inspiration. Get Mel’s #1 bestselling book, The Let Them Theory Watch the episodes on YouTube Follow Mel on Instagram The Mel Robbins Podcast Instagram Mel's TikTok Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes ad-free Disclaimer Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Episode summary

Hey, it’s your friend Mel, and I am buzzing after this one; you’re about to hear a world‑class cancer surgeon and neuroscientist share the hard‑won life lessons people usually learn too late, plus a clear playbook for crisis, heartbreak, and loss that will change how you live today.

What I’m offering is a survival playbook shaped by twenty‑five years with stage four patients and my own storms—imperfect, tested, and meant to help you face crisis, embrace change, and find meaning.

Take us back to nine‑year‑old you landing at LAX; what would you tell that kid about what’s coming?

I’d say it will be intense and beautiful; you’ll be underestimated, you’ll take hits, but regret fuels suffering and meaning brings peace, and adversity will reveal and strengthen your character.

You weren’t a bookworm and still became a leading brain surgeon; how did that turn happen?

In college I was partying, then crisis hit—a violent neighbor and my mom’s breast cancer—so I “amputated” school to focus on safety and family, worked low‑wage jobs without shame, rebuilt at Compton College with a mentor who urged me to do good, then discovered medicine on hospital rotations and felt fully awake in the OR.

Speak to the listener who knows they need to cut something big to get life back on track.

Hard choices feel lonely because the path is unclear, but if you’ve thought it through, you’re at peace, and you’re not harming others, steer your own ship and don’t let outside optics override your inner compass.

Give us your mindset playbook; how do we know what to use and when?

First ask, am I in a storm or in a season of stability; in crisis you deploy maneuvers like amputation and controlled breathing to survive, and in calmer times you build practices and do “minus one plus one”—drop one indulgence, add one constructive habit—so your attention is aimed where it matters.

What if I feel lost right now?

Trade outcome‑chasing for opportunity‑taking; like a Nicaraguan mom who got her child to surgery, count the shots you take, not just the wins, and your story starts to move again.

What have your patients taught you about living well when time is short?

The happiest reflections sound like glad‑I‑acted stories, not if‑only laments; you can’t change what happened, but you can direct your mind to frame choices as growth, and that inner narrative is a disciplined practice, whether you come to it through therapy, faith, or philosophy.

You keep coming back to attention control; what’s the simplest tool when chaos hits?

Paced nasal breathing—slow in, brief hold, slow out, brief hold—prevents hyperventilation, steadies your emotional circuits, releases your brain’s own calming chemistry, and only works in a crisis if you’ve rehearsed it in ordinary moments.

When people near the end talk about what matters, what rises to the top—and what do caregivers need to hear?

Parents aim for concrete milestones like seeing kids finish high school, and many wish they’d been bolder following their hunches; to caregivers, you’re not alone, get support, and guard your private moments so you can keep showing up.

You’ve seen immense resilience; what actually builds it?

There’s the strength you bank before a hit and the strength the hit pulls out of you; either you’re practicing and growing now, or the fight you’re in is training you for what’s next.

How does real change happen in the brain and in life?

The brain doesn’t regrow missing parts, it repurposes what remains and locks in new routes by laying myelin on repeated pathways, so consistent, moderate practice beats heroic, one‑off effort when you’re trying to change.

What’s your single most important daily ritual, and how can we start today?

Several times a day I rehearse attention by five minutes of paced nasal breathing; you can do ten quiet cycles anywhere—car, hallway, checkout line—and that simple drill strengthens the focus you’ll need for every other mental skill.

If someone listening is in the thick of it right now, what should they do tonight and tomorrow?

Breathe, set guardrails, and don’t make irreversible decisions at night; tomorrow, loop in others and build a plan.

How has this work changed you, and what’s the one takeaway you want us to hold?

I judge far less because you never know the battle next to you on the freeway; there’s no final arrival, life moves in cycles, so savor the ordinary good days and use simple strategies when the weather turns.

Thank you for flying here and pouring out this wisdom; I’m grateful you did, and I know you’ll be grateful you applied even one tool from today—breathe, aim your mind, share this with someone who needs it, and know I love you, I believe in you, and I’ll meet you in the next episode the moment you press play.

Life is beautiful because it’s difficult; nothing is promised, so make your run and relish the good times too.

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