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Tools to Bolster Your Mental Health & Confidence | Dr. Paul Conti

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Dr. Paul Conti, MD, is a board-certified psychiatrist and an expert in how to improve mental health and increase your sense of agency and wellbeing. He is also an expert in trauma treatment. We discuss practical tools you can use to gain insight into your natural strengths and to make better life choices on your own behalf. We explore how these tools can help overcome low motivation, intrusive thoughts and self-destructive bad habits. We also discuss how to balance internal reflection and external action to ensure you move your life forward in the right directions. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman Helix Sleep: https://helixsleep.com/huberman BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman Function: https://functionhealth.com/huberman Rorra: https://rorra.com/huberman Timestamps (00:00:00) Paul Conti (00:02:51) Self View; Tool: What's Going Right?; State Dependence (00:10:03) Sponsors: Helix Sleep & BetterHelp (00:12:44) Tool: Compassionate Curiosity; Falseness; Social Media (00:21:00) Doing vs Thinking; Self-Reflection (00:29:55) External vs Internal Processing, Balance (00:40:42) Sponsor: AG1 (00:42:26) Quiet vs Verbal; Questions to Learn About Self (00:53:17) Examined Life & Reflection; Changing Unwanted Behavior (01:02:54) Making Positive Changes, Problem Solving (01:07:26) Sponsor: Function (01:09:03) Behavior Pattern Insight & Reclaiming Agency (01:17:06) Agency & Control; Getting in Your Own Way (01:22:49) Trauma, Living Intentionally; Internal Turmoil (01:29:08) Intrusive Thoughts, Tool: Self Talk Awareness; Dreams (01:34:10) Sponsor: Rorra (01:35:23) Trauma & Emotions; Healing Childhood Trauma (01:43:32) Photographs, Positive Climate for the Mind; Spirituality, Good & Evil (01:52:53) Happiness & Expectations; Death, Living a Good Life (02:03:10) Book Writing; Acknowledgements (02:07:25) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow, Reviews & Feedback, Sponsors, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer & Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Episode summary

Let’s start from strength: far more is working in us than not, and that vantage point makes change possible.

Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast. I’m Andrew Huberman, and today I’m joined by psychiatrist Dr. Paul Conti to share practical tools for building mental health, balancing reflection with action, and leveraging what’s already going right; we’ll also touch on his new book, What’s Going Right.

How flexible is our self-concept? Can we really change our relationship with ourselves?

It’s highly malleable if we’re willing to look honestly and kindly at ourselves; compassionate curiosity lets us see what to emphasize and what to change.

Is starting with what works a good entry point?

Yes, because it’s true and empowering; from a solid base we can examine problems without collapsing into labels or hopelessness.

What processes or questions help people explore the self?

Begin with self‑talk in quiet moments and the story you tell about your life; then map the structure of self and the function of self—shared human pillars that guide healthy change.

Some people feel like entirely different selves depending on the situation. How do you think about state dependence?

Life’s pace can trap us in momentary states; cultivating an observing self—what clinicians call the observing ego—knits those states into a coherent whole.

What mindset best supports this work?

Curiosity is the crucial ingredient; ask what threads run through everything you do, when you feel most honest, and when a false self shows up.

Has social media blurred healthy boundaries between inner and outer life?

It can, but the impact depends on use; we can chase approval and hide, or we can find true community—honesty plus curiosity keeps us aligned with our real self.

Alone time now often includes feeds and sharing; how much solitude do we need?

There’s a sweet spot; too little connection is harmful, but overconnection outsources our preferences—build enough aloneness to form your own view before seeking validation.

There’s an ongoing debate about introspection versus action; how do you calibrate that balance?

It’s individualized; some need more doing, some more reflecting, but happiness and sustainable gratification signal that your mix is working.

Do some people just not reflect and still function fine?

Yes; if life is healthy and generative, minimal reflection can still work, but for many, periodic reflection prevents burnout and poor decisions.

What about internal versus external processors?

We all do some of both; speaking or writing recruits different brain systems and error checks, which can unstick looping thoughts.

We stereotype quiet people as wiser and talkative people as anxious; useful or misleading?

Context and person matter; judicious speech can be adaptive, and energetic dialogue can be constructive—avoid simplistic labels.

How much should we try to control our inner state versus accept our baseline temperament?

Use state tools to support your best functioning, not to become a different person; some people find calm in motion, others in stillness—ask what truly serves you.

Clinically, when someone lists life activities like a news report, where do you probe first?

I ask what’s chosen versus automatic and what’s actually working; that shift from inventory to intention kickstarts an examined life.

What if they resist, like repeatedly seeing someone who leaves them drained?

Treat it as an X on the map; dig there with compassion to learn why you keep doing what defeats your goals—people-pleasing, fear, or habit—and then realign behavior with aims.

Do you prescribe concrete steps or keep it exploratory?

Collaborative, specific steps work best—set measured wins, time them for success, and let small victories build empowerment and humility.

How much should we look back at family patterns versus focus on the now?

Insight liberates; without it we repeat or overcorrect old patterns—seeing the past clearly lets us choose a healthy middle path.

Why does insight itself boost agency?

Realizing an internal program is steering you dissolves its grip; people dislike being controlled, and that aversion fuels self‑advocacy when paired with compassion.

So the ‘enemy’ isn’t out there—it’s misaligned parts of self?

Exactly; you’re not your enemy, but you can block yourself for reasons like fear or unworthiness—name the reason, align your aims, and point all arrows in one direction.

How do you respond when someone says, “I get tired just thinking about it”?

That signals mental overwork without payoff; simplify the decision path so one real action replaces ten exhausting thought cycles.

Is how we treat others a mirror of our self‑talk?

Not reliably; many are kind outwardly yet brutal inside—notice and correct that hidden double standard.

What helps with intrusive thoughts?

First notice them, then seek their purpose, use gentle redirection, address real‑world drivers of threat, and consider medication when appropriate.

Are dreams useful guides?

Often; approach them with curiosity and restraint because the unconscious can speak in symbols, but not every dream carries clear meaning.

You’ve said the emotional brain ignores the clock; how should we handle intense states that feel endless?

Name the trigger and recognize a past‑present fold in time; those surges point to unprocessed material, and equanimity—not avoidance—opens the path to healing.

What’s the most effective way to work through childhood trauma?

Cultivate calm observation, avoid minimizing or dramatizing, and process in writing or with a trusted other so understanding—not fear—guides integration.

Do we reflect on good memories enough?

Not nearly; savoring wins and lessons builds confidence and counters the mind’s bias toward the negative.

Memory expert Larry Squire told me to surround myself with photos of meaningful moments to cue positive state and recall; I’m going to start printing and posting them.

That’s climate control for the mind; priming with authentic positives helps the unconscious surface hopeful, capable options so you meet life on the front foot.

I’m fascinated by faith and the idea of good and evil. Do beliefs like God and the devil actually help people choose better behaviors by giving them something to push against and a reason to be on their own side?

There’s some value there, but oversimplifying good and evil backfires. When we treat them as single forces, people over‑identify, self‑punish, or feel targeted, whereas a nuanced view—many pulls toward what builds and what erodes, inside and around us—fits both spirituality and science and helps us aim to be generative.

Can I aspire to be happy‑go‑lucky and still be effective?

Happy‑go‑lucky denies life’s difficulty, so drop the ‘go‑lucky’ and keep real happiness. It’s found by weaving peace, contentment, and delight into a life that acknowledges hardship and, in the spirit of embracing our fate, still allows wonder to return.

So delight shines against effort and challenge, and the aim isn’t endless ease.

Right; chasing a life with no weight can slide into numbness or escape. Better to meet the future with enough agency to be present in each moment, not to flee it.

You’ve likely been with people near the end; have you met someone who truly felt at peace with how they lived?

Yes—an elder who began with little schooling, built a bank that helped his community, endured the loss of a child, and still felt grateful and ready for death because he’d done his best. He warned me not to chase so hard that you can’t appreciate what you’ve built; his mix of peace, contentment, and remaining spark became a model I still carry.

We really should spend more time on what’s going right and what went right.

Exactly—count what we’ve made go right, including the times we showed up when things didn’t.

But not as a gloss; the contrast matters.

Yes—an examined life lets us live on purpose; looking inward is safe and useful, and we can accept imperfect outcomes while still embracing who we’ve been.

Did writing your book teach you anything that clinic work and conversation hadn’t?

Writing sharpened what I know by forcing clarity about what I don’t; organizing ideas and examples showed me the mind’s structure more plainly. It left me optimistic that the framework holds and points to practical help.

Wild pivot: has Lex Friedman texted you back? He’s ghosted me lately.

No word from him either—we joked he might be off the grid, and we just hope he’s well.

This was fantastic. The idea that we can be on our own side by naming what we refuse to be ruled by feels powerful, and pairing a focus on what’s right with doing the hard work on wounds and trauma seems like the real path to joy.

And we don’t just have to do that—we get to, with energy and hope.

Thank you for being here and for putting your clinical wisdom into the world; please come back. You can find Dr. Conti’s work and his book in the show notes, and if you’d like to support us, please subscribe and follow, check the sponsors, find my forthcoming book Protocols at protocolsbook.com, follow Huberman Lab on social, and join the free newsletter at hubermanlab.com.

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