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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss break bread with Mario Carbone & talk food, hip hop & Jada's Italian heritage

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PodcastThe Herd with Colin Cowherd
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Fat Joe and Jadakiss pull up to the world-famous Carbone in New York City for a lunch with the man himself, restaurateur Mario Carbone. From President Obama's secret visit to Jay-Z and Elon Musk fighting over the bill, Mario opens up about the legendary moments that have gone down inside these walls. Mario takes the guys through the rich history of the Greenwich Village spot, from its roots as Rocco's in the 1920s, to building one of the most coveted dining empires in the world, with plans to expand into hotels, residential properties, and supermarket shelves. Plus, longtime Carbone fixture Ricky "The Face" serves up a classic Joe Pesci story, a tailor measures Joe and Jada for new suits, and the question on everyone's mind is finally answered: is Jadakiss Italian? Joe and Jada is now  STREAMING ON NETFLIX ! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 2:30 In the kitchen with Mario Carbone 12:00 Obama, Elon & Jay-Z stories 14:30 Meet Ricky "The Face" 17:00 History of the Carbone building 20:45 Mario's origin story 25:00 N.O.R.E.'s John Gotti story 31:00 Did Knicks fans over-celebrate? 42:00 Future of Carbone: Hotels, residences & beyond 47:30 Favorite hip hop songs & LL Cool J appreciation 50:30 Ricky's amazing Joe Pesci story 55:00 Fat Joe got a table before LeBron 59:30 Joe got caught with the glizzy again 1:06:00 Making every guest feel like Henry Hill (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We bum-rushed the Carbone kitchen like kids in a candy store—Mario, we’re in your house now—and for the record, I love branzino and that infamous spicy, even if I can’t make toast.

Grab an apron—I’ll run you through some seafood hits like linguine with clams, Dover sole, and yes, our take on spicy rigatoni, so next time you can jump in even if I’m not here.

What I love is you keep it upscale but old-school—no fire gimmicks, just real Italian‑American plates—and everybody’s chasing that spicy.

Vodka sauce is a New York thing; I nudge it sweeter with onion, give it cream, then finish with heat, and the whole philosophy is simple classics done so well there’s nowhere to hide.

Talk to me about the clams and why Japan’s sushi just hits different.

Cold water makes shellfish cleaner and sweeter, and in Japan the edge is discipline—years of apprenticeship before you even touch the knife.

Wildest nights in this room?

Derek Jeter came straight from his final game and the room rose; another night the President slipped in unannounced, phones went dark, agents everywhere, and later Hov and Musk playfully wrestled over the check.

Meet Ricky, the face of our floor—he’s been filleting Dover sole and branzino here since day one and makes it look easy.

And yeah, every Italian loves Sinatra—feels like it’s a law.

We’re living the lifestyle today, so I brought my tailor from Milan to fit you both for custom suits before lunch.

This used to be Rocco’s from the nineteen twenties on a Genovese block with a secret door; I worked across the street at nineteen, grew up in Queens, did lousy at school, and found my lane in kitchens and family tables.

I ride for the classics—Il Mulino, Il Gabbiano, Park Side—and I love testing no‑reservation swagger even at Rao’s; your ZZ’s club is a move, and maybe we all celebrated the Knicks a bit too hard.

ZZ’s started in Miami to give our top people a home base, then we built one by the Garden; we expanded to London, Dubai, and another Vegas with Sadelle’s in the mix, and now we’re eyeing hotels and residences.

The rule is don’t chase the money—make choices like it’s your first restaurant and ask if the team will be fired up to do it.

Service is cinema to me—every guest should feel like Henry Hill gliding into the Copa with music, aroma, and a warm ‘we got you’ from door to table.

Your crews live that—wherever I go, people treat everyone like a regular, and that feeling is the secret sauce.

Story time—Joe Pesci ordered a martini ‘shaken more than you think,’ crushed it, then had me lose the jacket and dance; nights like that keep this room electric.

I once whipped up a lasagna on the fly for Mr. Scorsese, and early on Frank Pellegrino from Rao’s strode into the kitchen, looked around, told me it looked great, and walked out—I’ll never forget it.

Favorite hip‑hop cuts?

De‑Evils is up there, and I still remember hearing Biggie for the first time in the back of a baby‑blue Lincoln; in my head, Frank hands the chairman vibe to Jay, and I’ve always loved LL’s smooth records.

Drop those jars—I’m taking Carbone sauce home, and when those Miami condos hit, I want the friends‑and‑family; also, Katz’s will forever be a New York classic.

We put our sauce in tens of thousands of stores so you can cook Carbone at home, and yes—Katz’s is still my pick for best in New York.

Legendary day—custom suits, perfect branzino, and rainbow cookies stacked high; Mario, appreciate you, and from the back of Carbone we’re signing off—this ain’t that and that ain’t this.

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