About this episode
Colin is joined by former NFL stars Leonard Fournette and Jarvis Landry, hosts of “4 and South” on the Volume. They discuss Leonard’s experience of joining the Tom Brady led Tampa Bay Bucs and eventually winning a Super Bowl, and what happened during their bye week that fixed the offense (4:00). Jarvis looks back fondly on the Browns team he played on with Baker Mayfield that made the playoffs, and why Covid helped the team focus (9:00). They also discuss the perception that Colin didn’t like Baker Mayfield, and why Colin didn’t like Baker as a fit for the Browns (12:00). They talk about the trend of college football running backs skipping bowl games to avoid injury and Leonard revisists his decision to sit out LSU’s bowl game during his final year of college (18:00). Jarvis explains that in his final year in the NFL his love for the game hadn’t wavered despite his role diminishing on the field (25:00). Leonard highlights Luke Kuechly as the first player he faced that he couldn’t beat physically (29:30) and Jarvis points to Darelle Revis as the cornerback he just couldn’t shake (31:00). Finally, Leonard remembers the biggest surprise he faced on an NFL field (33:00) and Jarvis discusses the memories he has of the different quarterbacks he played with (37:00). All lines provided by @hardrockbet (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates! #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Episode summary
Welcome to Fourth and South with our Hard Rock Bet partners—putting LSU’s Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette together clicked right away; now let’s rewind to Tampa: Brady chose a loaded roster that needed a quarterback and a right tackle, so Leonard, what was it like when that call came?
I’d just been cut by Jacksonville when Devin White and then Tom reached out; I expected to walk in as RB1, but I had to fight through getting benched and find my groove before that playoff Lenny push.
You guys were up and down early and hit the bye at seven and five; what actually changed after that?
We held a players-only meeting, checked our egos, and accepted there’s one ball—seeing Mike Evans live with two or three targets without a peep set the standard, and we locked in on winning.
Jarvis, best team experience of your career doesn’t always mean the most wins; what year just felt right?
Cleveland’s playoff run during COVID—life was home and ball, guys stepped up after injuries, and we were a call and a Chad Henne scramble away in Kansas City from flipping that game.
People think I hate Baker, which isn’t true; did the media noise get to him, and how did you see his arc in Cleveland?
Baker can play and he competes, but being young in a chaotic setting is a lot; the noise found him sometimes, we still had a good run that should’ve lasted longer, and it’s hard to fix a franchise that’s been down for years overnight.
Leonard, I defended your bowl opt-out; was there a criticism that really stuck with you or taught you something?
People questioned my love for the game, but I’d played hurt, had a top-five grade, and chose my family and long-term health after seeing careers derailed by injuries like Marcus Lattimore’s.
First time you met your match—who read you or stopped you cold?
Luke Kuechly—he’d call out our runs by formation and hit the exact gap, and with a young QB I couldn’t kill the play, so it felt like running into a wall.
For me it was Darrelle Revis early on; he knew my splits, won with size and smarts, and it took a couple seasons before I felt like I got the better of that matchup.
Did facing guys like that change your offseasons?
Just thinking about them pushed me to double the work and add tools, even sprinting on run plays to condition for Sundays.
Leonard, by Wednesday’s install could you tell if a plan would cook or flop, or did Sundays always surprise you?
With TB12 we trusted the room—coaches offered plays, Tom curated what actually lived on Sunday, we changed a ton of hand signals late in the week, and if you weren’t mentally on it he wouldn’t throw to you, which is why we hit the Super Bowl with zero mental errors.
So you rolled into that Super Bowl with real conviction?
Practice felt like a Western standoff—quiet, focused, and ruthless; first scripted play we ripped an eighty-yard shot in practice, and we knew we were ready.
Jarvis, which quarterback pushed you the most?
Baker—our competitive rhythms matched, from Texas sessions to building option-route timing; Miami was more unsettled with turnover, but in Cleveland we sharpened each other daily.
Last one, Jarvis—did you still love the game at the end?
I loved it the same, but in New Orleans after a big opener the politics took over—featuring a first-rounder and emerging guys mattered more than my role, and when I asked hard questions my run there was basically done.
It’s Fourth and South—Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette, we love having you two; thanks for keeping it honest and giving us the stories we can’t get anywhere else.