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The Mel Robbins Podcast

#1 Cybersecurity Expert: This Conversation Could Save You Thousands of Dollars

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PodcastThe Mel Robbins Podcast
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If you’ve ever clicked “Accept All Cookies,” ignored software updates, saved your passwords, or logged into free Wi-Fi, you have to hear this. The little “harmless” things you do online are exactly what scammers count on. In today’s conversation, Mel sits down with award-winning cybersecurity expert Caitlin Sarian (aka “Cybersecurity Girl”) to give you the short and simple checklist of things that protect your money, your identity, and your privacy online. You don’t need to understand cybersecurity. You just need to stop treating online habits like they’re harmless, because they can leave you open for a scam. This isn’t about being paranoid, it’s about realizing that a few tiny changes can shut down most online threats. This conversation will educate and inform you. In this episode, you’ll learn: -The biggest cybersecurity mistake almost everyone makes (and how to fix it fast) -The #1 Venmo scam happening right now, and exactly what to do if it happens to you -What to do immediately if your phone is lost or stolen -The 5 essential moves that protect you from most online threats -The fastest way to spot scam links, fake emails, and panic-based phone calls -How to protect your parents, your kids, and your entire family from getting scammed -Simple settings to check tonight: camera, microphone, location, and account access Bookmark this episode and share it with your partner, your parents, and your friends. This is the kind of information that can prevent a mistake you can’t undo. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page. If you liked the episode, check out this one next: The 7‑Day Habit Reset: Start Today, Feel Different By Next Week Connect with Mel: Order Mel’s new product, Pure Genius Protein Get Mel’s newsletter, packed with tools, coaching, and inspiration. Get Mel’s #1 bestselling book, The Let Them Theory Watch the episodes on YouTube Follow Mel on Instagram The Mel Robbins Podcast Instagram Mel's TikTok Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes ad-free Disclaimer Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Episode summary

Hey, it’s your friend Mel, and welcome to the show. I’ve been hitting ignore on updates, accepting every cookie, and handing over location and camera access like it’s nothing, and our guest says that’s like leaving the front door open for scammers.

I used to think cybersecurity was for banks and tech folks, not for me, until I met Caitlin Sarian, an award‑winning expert who’s here to make this simple, practical, and doable for all of us.

You’re not supposed to know this already, and there’s no shame here. I’ll give you clear routines that fit into everyday life so you feel safer online.

If we actually do what you teach, what changes?

Scams are a massive global business, so it’s not if but when; the point is to take back control with a few steady habits that lower your risk fast.

Set the scene for us: what is cybersecurity, really?

It’s protecting your digital footprint, which is everything you do online; and private browsing only hides from people on your device, not from the sites you visit.

You never hand out your real name, birthday, or phone unless it’s essential. Why?

Ask why they need it, use an alternate email and a Google Voice number when possible, and keep a simple alias for low‑stakes signups to reduce how much of you gets sold and scraped.

You avoid creating accounts you do not need and even delay trip photos. What’s the logic?

Fewer accounts mean less data to leak, and posting travel after you return avoids social engineering like someone calling your hotel as you or timing scams when you’re unreachable.

Free Wi‑Fi feels sketchy; how risky is it and what’s the safe move?

Open networks can expose what you send unless sites use HTTPS; tether to your phone or use a reputable VPN, and remember airplane and café Wi‑Fi put you on their network.

What about storing passwords in notes or the browser?

Unlocked notes sync to the cloud and can spill everything; use a password manager or lock notes with Face ID, and know browser storage is safer than an open note but still not ideal.

Security questions like mother’s maiden name still safe?

Those answers are easy to find with public data, so build a consistent persona and use fictional answers you can remember.

You’re big on automatic updates—why?

Updates often patch holes attackers are already exploiting; turn on auto‑update for your phone and apps and let them fix the cracks.

And you never plug into random USB ports to charge.

USB can transmit data both ways, so charge with a wall adapter to avoid juice‑jacking.

You also reject the idea that you’re too small to target.

Attackers chase easy money, and reused or predictable passwords make anyone easy.

What’s driving most hacks right now?

Password reuse with tiny variations is cracked in seconds, and highly convincing calls or emails push you to react fast, often demanding crypto, which is a giant red flag.

How can we spot intrusions or fake bank alerts?

Check recent sessions on apps like email, social, iPhone, and messaging, and if a bank message looks odd, call the number on your card; do not tap links.

I don’t answer unknown calls or record a named voicemail, since voice samples can be misused to authenticate.

We use a family safe word for voice‑cloning emergencies.

That’s smart; agree on a secret phrase and verify it anytime something feels off.

Walk us through the Venmo refund scam.

Scammers send money from a stolen card and beg you to send it back; when the card payment reverses, your refund is gone—use a credit card when possible and be wary of instant transfers.

When a retailer announces a breach, what should we do?

Change that password, turn on multi‑factor, accept free credit monitoring, and freeze your credit so no one opens new accounts in your name.

How do we help our parents and grandparents?

Freeze their credit, turn on multi‑factor for banks and retirement accounts, teach them common scams, and set the codes to your phone if you’re the caregiver.

What are non‑negotiables for kids’ devices?

Use child accounts and private profiles, block messaging where you can, avoid apps that claim things disappear, and remind them nothing online truly vanishes; report sextortion at ic3.gov.

If a phone’s lost or stolen, what helps most?

Remove airplane mode from the quick control center so thieves cannot kill tracking fast, and use a strong passcode.

Are wearables and smart devices worth the tradeoff?

Decide by risk: have AI summarize the privacy policy, then ask what data they take, why they need it, and who they share it with, and turn off non‑essential sharing in settings.

Audit app permissions for camera, mic, and location, set access to while using, and limit photos to a single image so platforms are not scanning your camera roll in the background.

Facial recognition seems everywhere; any way to push back?

Biometrics are widely used and cannot be changed if leaked, so make case‑by‑case choices, and know infrared‑blocking lenses can reduce some eye‑tracking.

How real is the risk with laptop cams, doorbells, and baby monitors?

Reused passwords and open networks let strangers view or talk through cameras, so use unique passwords and add a simple camera cover when you are not using it.

Scammers even pose as my team in emails with slick links; what’s the move?

Verify through official, verified channels, hover over links, and when in doubt, call—do not click.

You promised five simple actions that block most threats. Lay them out.

Secure your key accounts with long, unique passwords and multi‑factor, let apps auto‑update, freeze your credit, pause before clicking and prefer calls, and shrink your data trail with deletion services or manual opt‑outs; as a bonus, review every app’s camera, mic, and location access.

I started this feeling overwhelmed and a little defeated, and now I feel clear and hopeful: I can clean up my data, use stronger passwords with multi‑factor, let updates run, freeze my credit, pause before I tap, and stop oversharing.

Thank you for the straight talk and practical steps, and thank you for listening and sharing this with the people you love; as your friend, I believe you can make your online life safer with a few simple choices, and I’ll be here to cheer you on next time you hit play.

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